id,conversation_id,text,speaker_id,speaker_name,start_time,end_time
20775,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,So I need like 11. Mhmm. I need to gross 11. Mhmm. Live. Mhmm. And that's with a very reduced minimum,1,Speaker 1,1.169999589920044,10.039999589920043
20776,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"food budget for that. spend. Mhmm. Like, I have to cut 30% out So, yeah, I figured that.",1,Speaker 1,14.859998589920044,13.809998589920044
20777,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I figured kids half the time. Kids half the time. Right. Yeah. Right.,2,Speaker 2,19.109999589920044,23.029999589920045
20778,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"No, I know Can I No? I know, like, I noticed a sustained seven of eight of us. What what are, nine of us? There are nine of us.",0,User,23.559999589920043,31.819999589920045
20779,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Yeah. I know it has sustained nine of us my god, 200 at least.",0,User,32.47999958992004,37.43999958992004
20780,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,39.11999958992004,39.51999958992005
20781,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,At least.,1,Speaker 1,39.51999958992005,39.999999589920044
20782,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Which I can't go get a job right now making that, but I've made that before. Like, that doesn't that number doesn't scare me, but I'm like, I don't know exactly how to get that tomorrow.",0,User,45.96999958992004,54.15999958992004
20783,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"None of the current solutions on the table will produce that tomorrow. Mhmm. It's gonna be like, if I get the if I got a second interview, so if I get the job at the U doing data analysis, I'll take it because it's a job.",0,User,54.73000258992004,68.39999958992004
20784,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I don't even know what it pays. I'm guessing it's slightly over a 100. It was eighty or ninety fifteen years ago. So hopefully it's gone up since then.,0,User,68.78999958992004,78.14000958992004
20785,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I I doubt it's a 150, you know? Mhmm.",0,User,81.02000358992004,83.81999958992004
20786,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"It probably won't be enough to sustain I need. I will have to work weekends, I'll have to take on extra coding projects to break even.",0,User,88.29999958992005,95.71999958992005
20787,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,On the weekends.,0,User,95.95999958992005,96.91999958992004
20788,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Which is what I'm gonna have to do I think no matter what.,0,User,100.69999958992004,102.85998958992005
20789,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,But that's what I'll do. And then we can code in projects. We'll turn into contract work again and contract work is a lot more lucrative. It will just take some time.,0,User,111.44999958992004,125.27999958992004
20790,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"So I'll get back to I can get back to $2.50 a year. Like, that's I the the software market needs to solidify a little bit and I need to shift into more higher demand sections of it. I need to develop a skill set and a network and a set of happy clients around what is kind of the next ten years, right, like AI and advanced stuff that's gonna stick around for a while.",0,User,127.04999458992005,151.77998958992004
20791,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Right?,0,User,152.11000958992005,152.34999958992003
20792,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"So that's what I'll do. And it would also be nice to just like maybe build some stuff that's got some passive potential. Like Some products or something I can put up and it'll, you know, get like the money and I don't have to I'm not trading hours.",0,User,156.80999958992004,173.53999958992006
20793,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,For,0,User,173.83999958992004,174.55999958992004
20794,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,it.,1,Speaker 1,174.55999958992004,174.80000958992005
20795,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"None of that's, like, none of that's a clear, like, okay, if I do this and then this and then this, that happens. Right? It's kind of like I'm gonna do a whole bunch of shit and some of it will click in and and then it'll be off to the races, which that's how I did it the first time around, that I have done this before.",0,User,178.69999958992005,197.39999958992004
20796,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,But and I know it's not like you you know which thing that you're doing. Right? You gotta do a whole lot. You gotta have a lot of irons in the fire. You don't know which one's gonna do as many things as you can.,0,User,198.97999958992006,207.30999958992004
20797,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"And it and then it takes the time that it takes for those things to click in. All right? I know. It took about three years. I suspect it won't take as long this time, but I'm also in this kind of depressed software market. Mhmm.",0,User,208.66999958992005,222.41000958992004
20798,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,And so I don't know.,1,Speaker 1,224.36999958992004,224.92999958992004
20799,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I would love to farm there, not the salt in my cap. On some level, which does mean something to me, and it means something to the people around me.",0,User,227.74998958992003,236.27999958992004
20800,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"But is it worth the review courses 2,500 and the bar application fee is 500 and you know.",0,User,237.33000958992005,244.86000958992005
20801,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,You're gonna have to do it a couple of Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,245.09999958992003,245.81999958992003
20802,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was thinking that's probably the way to go is to is to study as little as possible. Like, to to do a moderate effort study protocol. Right? So so that I can work and try to fix my actual problem and do that at the same time.",0,User,245.81999958992003,261.61001958992006
20803,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Right?,1,Speaker 1,261.61001958992006,261.77002958992006
20804,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,And then there's a good chance I will fail. But but the failure on the first round will show me exactly what I need to do. To succeed in the second round. That's probably the way to do it.,0,User,263.59997958992005,274.87997958992
20805,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"If I if I put $25 down on the review course, in the next two days, I can get $500 off. The actual bar happens at the July. I probably need to study for about three months. It's somewhere between 10 and 30 depending on the level I decide. Right?",0,User,283.90999958992006,301.31997958992
20806,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,So I would actually start studying in a couple of months.,0,User,303.91999958992005,307.59997958992005
20807,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,The application is due at the end of the month. To take the bar in July. So I will probably put the $25 down because who cares about $25?,0,User,311.72999958992006,324.66999958992005
20808,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"To say if I don't mind, that makes sense to me. And then that'll give me another couple ten more days to to commit to the application, which is $550, which is money I do not have right this minute.",0,User,326.63999958992,340.90999958992006
20809,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"You know, like I don't know.",0,User,341.84997958992005,346.66999958992005
20810,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,How do you get it? Far from your parents?,2,Speaker 2,346.66999958992005,350.09002958992005
20811,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Probably.,1,Speaker 1,350.49002958992,351.29001958992006
20812,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I mean, I can I have a credit card right now that's got a little bit of money left that I'm paying for food with? Right? I can do that, but then I'm gonna have to borrow money to pay for food and seven days instead of ten.",0,User,351.45001958992003,363.46997958992006
20813,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Mhmm. Right?,1,Speaker 1,363.46997958992006,368.89001958992003
20814,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"So and I have a little bit of this and little bit of that. Like, I can I have a a couple of hours today? Of work for an old client, and they're paying me. I I made them a deal, they could give me more work, and they have. They've given me don't know.",0,User,370.54999958992005,389.87999958992003
20815,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Probably done ten hours for them in the last two months because I cut my rate in half. I used to make a $180 an hour with them because at the time, when I that rate, was the fourth time they'd come back and be like, please give us more time.",0,User,390.59997958992005,400.81999958992003
20816,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"And I was like, I'm very busy and I have a lot. They're like, give us a number. We'll pay you that. Like whatever, like what does it take to get some of your time?",0,User,401.43997958992003,411.30996958992006
20817,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I was like, okay.",1,Speaker 1,411.72999958992006,413.16999958992005
20818,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"$180 an hour. At the time that was like, the highest I'd ever been paid. So where I was with them. And then their revenue dropped every all my clients are they're all in decline. You know? Mhmm. And so I was like, okay, guys. What would it take take? How little would you need to pay me for it to make sense to use me again?",0,User,414.41999958992005,438.12999958992003
20819,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"And they're doing very little, but it was like cut in half. And so I was like, well, $90 an hour is still $90 an hour. That's not bad.",0,User,438.86001958992006,447.06997958992
20820,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,447.06997958992,447.22999958992006
20821,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Compared to zero, that's great. If I could work forty hours a week at $90 an hour, I'd be okay.",0,User,447.43997958992003,452.93999958992003
20822,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Mhmm.,1,Speaker 1,452.93999958992003,453.81999958992003
20823,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Anyway, so I have a couple of hours today to do that. So there's things like that that I'm like, I'm probably that goes me on a couple $100 You know what I mean? I'll try and I'm gonna put a couple of ads up today for, like, I will teach you how to use AI or I will fix your computer or like little handyman, tech handyman things.",0,User,455.87999958992003,479.09999958992006
20824,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,On Facebook market.,0,User,479.29999958992005,480.41999958992005
20825,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Some few $100 here, few $100 there, which would extend my ten days to who knows? Fifteen.",0,User,483.76999958992,491.58999958992007
20826,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Anyway,",1,Speaker 1,492.79999958992005,493.35999958992005
20827,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,That's where it's at.,1,Speaker 1,506.18999958992003,507.06999958992003
20828,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Why did I why did we get into that? Oh, $550 for the bar. So $550 for the bar right this moment. Two months ago, I was like, I've got a couple months runway, I just need to fix this but like you know, like I have time.",0,User,509.72999958992006,523.2599995899201
20829,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,But I still might do it anyway.,0,User,530.31999958992,535.34002958992
20830,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I may just have I mean, should do it anyway.",1,Speaker 1,537.92999958992,539.20999958992
20831,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I don't know if you get, like Why do you think I should do it? Because you feel pretty strongly about this.",0,User,542.60003958992,546.09999958992
20832,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I think you should be doing, like, eight things.",2,Speaker 2,565.4100395899201,567.48999958992
20833,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Yeah.,1,Speaker 1,569.2800395899201,569.60003958992
20834,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,See what sticks. The taking the bar is a big one. Yeah. That's that's gonna take a lot of time and energy and focus and you're gonna have to be committed and focused.,2,Speaker 2,571.69999958992,583.35999958992
20835,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Yeah.,0,User,583.43994958992,583.7599595899201
20836,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I think they'll respect yourself more. I think you'll come out of it a stronger person It's going through a gauntlet Mhmm. Coming out on the other side.,2,Speaker 2,588.59999958992,595.55999958992
20837,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Which you need to do,2,Speaker 2,596.08999958992,596.96999958992
20838,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,It gives you options. It gives you confidence. It it it has you meet people and make connections.,2,Speaker 2,611.45999958992,617.8699995899201
20839,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Get your foot in the door door. It brings movement, momentum, and drive, and, like, it's gonna require a lot of you Mhmm. A lot of focus, a lot of your mind.",2,Speaker 2,625.59999958992,634.40002958992
20840,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,In a way that you exercised for a while. Right?,2,Speaker 2,637.55999958992,640.41999958992
20841,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I think a lot of what I see, what I a lot of a lot of the energy around the Jake that I met, right, is very reactive. Mhmm. Oh, now I have to deal with this. But but in in reaction, not in the pro action. Right.",2,Speaker 2,663.05999958992,685.07995958992
20842,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Right.,1,Speaker 1,685.07995958992,685.3999995899201
20843,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I think that's something you could do proactively for tomorrow's Jake. Mhmm.,2,Speaker 2,686.73999958992,691.6399595899201
20844,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,It's looking ahead. It's not just looking at right now. We have to fix right now.,2,Speaker 2,695.10999958992,698.76996958992
20845,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Just gives you options. It expands your mind It's finishing something that's left unfinished. Confidence building. It's it's movement and And it's not easy. Yeah. It's hard. It might be enough to engage your brain.,2,Speaker 2,704.60999958992,728.3799995899201
20846,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,They're all good reasons.,0,User,745.6399595899201,746.51996958992
20847,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,The time's gonna pass?,1,Speaker 1,753.72999958992,754.44995958992
20848,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Yeah.,0,User,755.51996958992,755.91999958992
20849,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"It's something that you look back and like, I'm really proud of the last three months.",2,Speaker 2,756.72999958992,759.84999958992
20850,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Mhmm.,1,Speaker 1,760.29999958992,760.69995958992
20851,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Because I did this thing. Because you might stay unemployed for another three months. Yeah. And then what?,2,Speaker 2,760.69995958992,768.2300495899201
20852,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Right.,1,Speaker 1,768.34999958992,768.82995958992
20853,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"You're like, I'm not proud of the last three months. It's still like this. At least then you'd be like, I did this thing",2,Speaker 2,771.57995958992,779.09002958992
20854,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Yeah.,1,Speaker 1,779.4100395899201,779.7300495899201
20855,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,And this thing and this thing. Right. Something is going to land at some point. Right. I am doing these things.,2,Speaker 2,779.8899995899201,787.10999958992
20856,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Maybe the process sparked a new idea.,2,Speaker 2,792.79004958992,795.2699995899201
20857,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Because you're in movement.,2,Speaker 2,803.5199995899201,804.55999958992
20858,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,What?,2,Speaker 2,809.96999958992,810.7699995899201
20859,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I'm making fun of me.,1,Speaker 1,811.32999958992,812.04999958992
20860,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I'm just thinking about,0,User,817.5300395899201,818.65002958992
20861,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"I could do more and I should. But like I learned react native in the last few months. And build a whole bunch of little apps. Like, I'm like, I'm doing the things you're saying I'm not doing, I am actually doing.",0,User,827.47003958992,843.5299995899201
20862,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I see.,2,Speaker 2,843.5299995899201,843.68999958992
20863,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"And so I'm like, you don't see what, like you still don't see what I am doing. And like, could I do more? I could do more. I should do more. Right? I need to do more because it's not enough. So clearly it's not enough.",0,User,844.1399995899201,854.7099695899201
20864,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"But I'm like, I'm applying for jobs and I'm doing this and I'm learning this skill and I'm building this and I'm making these connections. Like everything you just said about the bar Yeah.",0,User,855.34999958992,863.5199995899201
20865,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I have an example in my life of something I'm doing Yeah. That fits that objective.,0,User,863.94999958992,869.4599695899201
20866,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,Mhmm. Right?,1,Speaker 1,869.5399995899201,870.2599595899201
20867,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Which is not to say that I wanna take take the bar. I'm just like, oh, you you still don't see. And then I'm like, maybe that's fair.",0,User,870.2599595899201,876.7300495899201
20868,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Because when I'm here with you, I'm focused on you. Like, my when I'm with you, my energy and attention is focused on you. And I'm not, oh I gotta go do this thing and then I gotta go. You know what I mean? My energy is not oh I only have a few minutes for us because I have all this stuff.",0,User,877.69999958992,894.42999958992
20869,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,"Doing. Like, and I'm like, that's funny to me. Because essentially, the version of me you're advocating is a version that almost doesn't have time for us. Or you. I know. That's why I feel stressed about that. That's why I'm that's why I'm smiling.",0,User,895.18999958992,910.9599695899201
20870,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,That's why I feel like I'm taking your time.,2,Speaker 2,912.07999958992,913.1199995899201
20871,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,She won't be happy with me until I don't have time for a relationship.,0,User,913.57999958992,917.62994958992
20872,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,That's funny to me. Know. And then I'll be sad.,1,Speaker 1,919.5399995899201,921.29999958992
20873,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,But It's funny to me.,0,User,921.5399995899201,922.4999995899201
20874,460118a1-4ff1-4c52-902f-b8ef9c69e2a3,I know I know this.,2,Speaker 2,922.4999995899201,922.81999958992