id,conversation_id,text,speaker_id,speaker_name,start_time,end_time
18799,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Bon,",0,User,-1.239777702721767e-07,0.31999987602239344
18800,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"We can get a two week trial guys. We can get a two week trial at the climbing gym for $50. So if we wanted to, we could sign up to climb for a couple weeks.",0,User,13.679899876022318,24.68989987602231
18801,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,For pretty cheap.,0,User,26.309899876022428,27.26999987602244
18802,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Hey, How are you? Good. How how was church? Doing good. Good.",0,User,70.96999987602226,81.28999987602242
18803,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Okay.,0,User,84.65999987602231,85.46009987602224
18804,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Okay.,0,User,90.03989987602245,90.43989987602231
18805,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right.,0,User,94.1699998760223,94.64999987602232
18806,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Good. That sounds pretty good.,0,User,104.03989987602245,106.33999987602238
18807,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Pretty good.,0,User,113.66989987602233,114.30989987602243
18808,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Oh, no. No. I just like, I've been ignoring you for a couple days, and I haven't talked as much. I've been focused on distracted.",0,User,120.93989987602231,128.83999987602238
18809,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Also, I'm thinking about signing up to take the bar in July.",0,User,135.33009987602236,138.45009987602225
18810,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I'm thinking about signing up to take the bar in July. Yeah. Not necessarily so I can start practicing lawful time, but just like don't know.",0,User,142.25999987602245,154.03999987602242
18811,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I I talked to Tracy yesterday. About, like, my finances a little bit. Like, we were talking and I was like, I wanna kinda, like I haven't she she has, like when I first lost my job, she was, don't worry about child support.",0,User,155.39999987602232,172.08999987602238
18812,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"For now. And so I haven't paid her child support in almost it's coming up on a year now. So I was like, I wanna to apologize and just be like, how like, give me a number you feel comfortable with. Like, if I'd known I was gonna be out of work this long, I would've modified the child support.",0,User,172.4199998760223,188.70009987602225
18813,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But I didn't. But, like, you know, what I was just like, whatever you you feel like is fair, I want I want you to feel taken care of done me a huge favor. Don't wanna I'm not trying to get out of anything here.",0,User,189.45999987602227,199.87999987602234
18814,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I just wanna know what you're thinking. And so we were talking about it. And she was like, she was like, have you thought about taking the bar And then, like, she's like if you're a mem if you're an attorney, can profit share with law firms. And she was like, not necessarily to practice law, if you wanted to do like you know, go in as like a business manager or something in a firm, being an attorney would let you profit share instead of just getting paid.",0,User,200.50999987602245,229.61999987602235
18815,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I was like, that's interesting. You know? And then I talked to Katie about it, and I've talked to Katie about it before. And every time it comes up, she's like, you should take the bar. She she feels like she feels like I, like, got to the finish line and then quit.",0,User,231.83999987602238,245.28989987602245
18816,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"You know? So she just feels like it's like this, like, point of shame. What and it is a little bit. Know what mean? Mean? I do feel a little bit like I don't feel like I quit, but I do feel like I should have just driven that home. You know what I mean?",0,User,245.76999987602244,258.6799998760223
18817,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,I should have just done it.,0,User,259.96999987602226,261.00999987602245
18818,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah.,0,User,266.0599998760224,266.37999987602234
18819,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah. Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,278.46009987602224,280.86999987602235
18820,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Yeah. I mean, I signed up I signed up for it. And then I got a job working at the hospital doing financial analysis. So I didn't study, and I showed up the first day and took one day of the bar, and I was like, oh, there's no way.",0,User,291.46009987602224,308.26999987602244
18821,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And so went home and I just forgot to upload the the file. And so I when I showed up the second date, they were like, we're not gonna even let you this is pointless. And I was and I and that was kind of dumb and embarrassing.",0,User,310.2999998760224,323.47999987602225
18822,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But I was also like, none of this none of this matters. I wasn't gonna pass this. You know what I mean? I did not study. And so it was it was just like kind of a dumb thing.",0,User,324.00999987602245,332.98009987602245
18823,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But I was like, I I had signed up. In fact, I almost didn't sit for it. I almost just didn't go because I'm like, I'm not gonna pass.",0,User,333.02999987602243,338.54989987602244
18824,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And then I was like, I know. It's probably a good experience. To try. You know? It'll orient me a little. If I ever wanna do this again, it'll help.",0,User,339.59009987602235,347.74999987602223
18825,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Right? So that and that so then I was like, yeah. Like like, you know what I mean? I didn't intend to pass like, was one of those things where I, like, half did it, but there was a I was in a job. I was doing something else.",0,User,347.9499998760223,359.15989987602234
18826,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So like, I wasn't gonna take the time to study full time. Like, I I that wouldn't have worked with what I was doing.",0,User,362.01989987602224,370.9499998760223
18827,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But I still do, like, kinda feel like I don't know. I wish I wish that I could just say, yeah, I'm an attorney. Just don't practice.",0,User,372.61999987602235,380.15989987602234
18828,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I'm like, I've never taken the bar. Like, I have this big ex and I guess I could say that. Technically, it's not accurate, no no one else cares.",0,User,380.5799998760224,387.71999987602226
18829,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But I always feel like I have to like explain it and that bugs me, you know. Really, that's just really, that's that's not really the circumstance. That's just my personality.",0,User,389.0699998760224,397.51999987602244
18830,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I'd have to explain it, and I don't have to take the bar so I have to explain it. But I don't know. There there is something there for me. There is. There's something there for me where I'm like, it would give me options. It would, like, it would just honestly, it would just make me feel like I know I could do it.",0,User,400.1699998760223,421.77999987602243
18831,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,426.10999987602236,430.9398998760223
18832,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,434.22009987602223,434.6200998760223
18833,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And it would probably, like, yeah. And then there's things attorneys could do that I might wanna do for myself. You know? That it would give me options. Anyway, so I've thought about it on and off. Like, it comes up every once in a while, and I'm like, I kinda wanna do it, but then I'm like, how do I have to find the estimate of time? You know?",0,User,435.3999998760223,457.6799998760223
18834,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But, anyway, what do you think? Want your take on it.",0,User,461.71999987602226,467.9499998760223
18835,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"The other thing I like you. Is reorient me Like, I I I haven't I like, I'd be able to give legal advice, like, not professionally.",0,User,481.7999998760224,491.47999987602225
18836,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But when people are talking about legal issues, I should have enough knowledge to be like, this is what you should be worried about. Right? Like, Corey calls me up and I'm like, I'm not a real attorney. I can't really give you you know what mean? Like, I can't actually answer these questions very well. And I'm like, I should be able to. Like, not not in a professional way or, like, in a way where I'm like, setting them up to fail because I don't know enough of the details, which I'm smart enough to know when to stop. You know?",0,User,491.84999987602237,515.7999998760224
18837,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But I'm like, I studied law. I should have paid enough attention and still be paying enough attention to how the law actually works.",0,User,517.2499998760222,523.5498998760224
18838,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"To know how it actually works. Like, not to the point of, like, I can show up in court and argue a case, but, like, I should be able I should have a better capacity to navigate legal issues based on my education. Right?",0,User,524.3998998760223,535.2200998760222
18839,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Okay. Okay.,3,Speaker 3,537.0699998760224,538.1099998760224
18840,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I do question that myself. Like, that's how I feel, but I'm like, that might not be right. Could the devil's in the details with the law. It always is. And if you if you do it, thing every day, you don't know the details.",0,User,538.9999998760222,547.6899998760223
18841,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Don't get me there anyway.,0,User,554.1599998760223,555.1999998760223
18842,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Okay. Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,556.8199998760224,558.0199998760224
18843,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right.,3,Speaker 3,561.2599998760224,561.6598998760223
18844,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Yeah. Yeah. You know what it is though? I guess it's this. Because I stopped and turned, like, I feel like I should be leaning in.",0,User,567.5598998760224,575.1399998760223
18845,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Feel like I should be educating myself. Like, I should be asking questions and like becoming familiar with specific situations that are relevant to me.",0,User,575.6399998760223,584.6199998760223
18846,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I'm not because I'm like, I'm not really I should identify as a lawyer. That's what it is. My own head. Maybe.",0,User,586.1699998760223,596.4700998760222
18847,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Right. Which right. Which has always been the which has always been the thing. So that's it's always been that. Like, well, okay. But it's gonna take this amount of time. It's gonna take whatever, thirty hours a week for ten three hundred hours. It's gonna take three hundred hours.",0,User,606.7000998760223,623.3399998760224
18848,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Is this the best use of these three hundred hours? Right?,0,User,624.4699998760223,627.3499998760224
18849,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right. Which is way harder. Right?,0,User,639.0700998760224,640.6699998760223
18850,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,K.,3,Speaker 3,644.6798998760223,645.0799998760224
18851,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right.,0,User,653.7999998760224,654.1199998760223
18852,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,668.5699998760224,668.8899998760223
18853,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,K. Yeah. Right.,3,Speaker 3,689.6999998760223,695.0199998760224
18854,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,K.,2,Speaker 2,713.5499998760224,713.9500998760223
18855,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Okay.,3,Speaker 3,719.3399998760224,719.7399998760222
18856,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Can Yeah. You might have hit jumped way over the mark in California.,0,User,733.7299998760222,737.3399998760224
18857,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right.,3,Speaker 3,750.7399998760222,751.2199998760223
18858,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right. It's the same test. Right?,0,User,754.4399998760223,756.0399998760222
18859,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I would hope I could do there there's there's a Themis. So there's Barbery, right, which was around when I was in school. But there's another one there's another one called Themis, I guess, that started for 02/2009, like after it wasn't around when I would have studied. Right?",2,Speaker 2,770.8301998760226,787.8199998760224
18860,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"It it it came out shortly. Online first. Alternative to essentially. And currently, it is more self directed and less lecture focused. And it's more based on, like, you take the test.",0,User,788.0599998760222,801.1899998760223
18861,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Over and over again.,2,Speaker 2,802.0099998760224,802.8099998760222
18862,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah. You're studying to the test.,0,User,804.5499998760224,806.3899998760226
18863,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"You're not, like, learning all the doctrine. And then trying to apply your knowledge to the test. You're you're studying the test.",2,Speaker 2,806.3899998760226,812.6299998760223
18864,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And I was like, that sounds good for me. Probably because I just like the tactic thing, but I'm like, I get bored. Like, I need irrelevant. Like, knowledge hooks in for me when they're the reason I need to remember it. Right?",0,User,814.4599998760223,825.3299998760222
18865,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And so if it's like, oh, I made a mistake here, Why? Right? When I learn why, I will remember it. 100%. Right? And and it's easy.",0,User,826.3299998760222,834.6899998760223
18866,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"If it's just like this dump of information and then I have to later on recall it, it doesn't hook in as nearly as well for me.",0,User,835.2999998760224,843.8899998760226
18867,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,And so I expect that that tactic of of studying will mean I can accomplish a task with less effort and less time.,2,Speaker 2,844.9697998760225,848.4099998760225
18868,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"It's, you know, it's been twenty years though too since the study. So there's that big question mark.",0,User,851.1599998760225,854.9998998760225
18869,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right? How much do I remember? How much of this is gonna I'm gonna have to relearn it like it's the first time. So don't know.,2,Speaker 2,855.7299998760222,865.1899998760223
18870,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Guess that's not a bad idea.,2,Speaker 2,877.2398998760223,878.3599998760224
18871,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right.,0,User,881.9299998760225,882.3301998760226
18872,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Alright. Right. To spend a day practicing. Although, I don't know. Like, if I just took a Saturday and I was like, okay.",2,Speaker 2,883.8399998760224,889.8399998760224
18873,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,I'm gonna take a practice test today.,0,User,890.8001998760224,891.9999998760222
18874,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,What's the it's the MBE. Right? A multistate bar exam is the first day.,2,Speaker 2,893.2499998760222,896.3699998760221
18875,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"It's the multi choice part. I'm like, I'm just gonna sit down one of these weekends and take a day and do an MBE.",0,User,896.4899998760225,901.4499998760225
18876,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"I don't have a fake one. That would kind of yeah. Yeah. That would kind be like, oh, actually, I remember a decent amount and, I'm my the way my mind works is Like, am paying close enough attention to the details and the nuance to, like, navigate this instead of just being, like, blowing through it and not yeah.",2,Speaker 2,901.5401998760221,912.6999998760225
18877,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Mean there's, a most tests in life the test kinda at you the whole time. Like, it kind of offered you the answer. Even if you don't know, even if you don't know the stuff, the way the questions are structured, you're like, well, these two are obviously wrong. Like like, just the four answers it's giving me, the way they've structured the differences between the four answers, winks at me that some the two of them are wrong. And so it's between these two for sure.",0,User,922.9499998760225,948.1799998760225
18878,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And if I know what I'm doing, it's fifty fifty, but half the time I do You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I can I can almost take a test on a on a subject that I don't know?",0,User,949.2398998760223,957.4399998760223
18879,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"And get 75% of the answers right. But by just just declining, like, by just",0,User,958.4399998760223,963.8699998760221
18880,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"The the the bar is not gonna be that. It's gonna be the exact opposite. Right? Where there like, no. We give you we give you really good answers.",0,User,968.0401998760221,974.7099998760223
18881,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"Like, it doesn't it doesn't weaken you. You gotta know. Not only you gotta know, you gotta know Like, they're probably offering you, like, an initial, this sounds right, but it's not right because of the distinction. Right?",0,User,975.6399998760226,987.1499998760223
18882,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,They're probably trying to trick you. Instead of instead of trying to spoon feed you what most tests do. Yeah.,0,User,987.9497998760226,996.5701998760223
18883,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,That would That's a good idea.,3,Speaker 3,997.1899998760223,998.4699998760225
18884,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"That would give me a sense of, oh, do this in fifteen hours would work to me.",0,User,999.0300998760222,1002.9998998760225
18885,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right?,2,Speaker 2,1002.9998998760225,1003.8799998760223
18886,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,And maybe that's not maybe that's worth it. Right? That's not I can do whatever else I'm doing and and that's worth it. I know. It's always bugged me. It it has always bugged me.,0,User,1004.5899998760224,1016.3799998760223
18887,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"So I think that's why like, I think if it didn't bug me, I think Katie's sense of, like, I would just be like, no. You're wrong. Like, I understand why you feel that way, and that's okay. I don't I don't need to tuck you into this, but you're wrong.",0,User,1017.2700998760224,1030.2499998760222
18888,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"But that's not but that's not how I feel. I find her energy around it, like, you you like didn't finish. I find that compelling which tells me I I agree with her. Right?",0,User,1031.6399998760226,1040.5399998760222
18889,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Bothered me forever.,2,Speaker 2,1042.4998998760225,1044.8199998760224
18890,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,So anyway.,3,Speaker 3,1044.9798998760225,1045.4597998760223
18891,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Mhmm. You don't think that's my a reflection of my values as much as my need to fit in or something.,2,Speaker 2,1055.0501998760224,1059.8399998760224
18892,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,1066.1299998760223,1066.5300998760222
18893,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Right. That's true.,2,Speaker 2,1069.0901998760223,1070.9299998760225
18894,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,That's true.,0,User,1077.8899998760226,1078.7700998760224
18895,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,"No. That's good feedback, Vic.",2,Speaker 2,1078.7700998760224,1079.4099998760225
18896,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Thank you.,0,User,1079.8101998760221,1080.2901998760221
18897,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,That's true.,2,Speaker 2,1080.6699998760223,1081.1499998760223
18898,7f0b03eb-de35-4632-9ddd-d31c3200dbb9,Yeah.,3,Speaker 3,1084.0701998760223,1084.7099998760223