id,conversation_id,text,speaker_id,speaker_name,start_time,end_time
59811,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Something for our legal team, and I don't know why my my Gmail calendar didn't do a ping to let me know that I was due for a meeting. So I I'm so sorry. Yeah. I I think we can probably do most of this in fifteen, but if you wanna do it later, I can certainly go in fifteen. Okay. I can go up to 11:45. Okay. Works. Yes. So can I? I'm available.",1,Speaker 1,4.547473508864641e-13,985.9755251911934
59812,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Cool.,1,Speaker 1,986.575516191193,986.8955151911932
59813,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Background, and I thought I could just help add some additional color to the organization, talk a little experience, working with the organization, and then go from there. Okay.",1,Speaker 1,993.2955201911932,1003.3755201911931
59814,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah. So I've I've with and Yeah. I've been with the organization organization now for just about three years. I was the the first full time hire in twenty twenty three.,1,Speaker 1,1004.7755201911932,1014.1355201911933
59815,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"After they have launched, like, newer version of the app. So, initially, how we feel was an app to help track COVID symptoms, and they launched that in 2020. And then they did a they facilitated some actually some very valuable research during that time.",1,Speaker 1,1016.015520191193,1029.595520191193
59816,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And what they realized is as they 2021 and 2022, they kinda realized people were it it wasn't gonna be a forever thing to continue to track COVID physical symptoms and so they took those learnings, and then they this, like, next level of motion tracker.",1,Speaker 1,1030.6555201911933,1055.8155201911932
59817,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And then they launch in, like, mid to late twenty twenty two and then they won the cultural impact to work with Apple. Okay. And then they're like, oh, shoot. This thing's growing.",1,Speaker 1,1056.575520191193,1068.535520191193
59818,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And so they needed to start building a team around it. So they hired me in at needed At that time, I was working with these two agencies, one in iOS, one in Android.",1,Speaker 1,1069.1755201911933,1076.255510191193
59819,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"After about four to five months in that type of environment, think we realized just in house talent is just you is better aligned from an incentive perspective not the hourly billing.",1,Speaker 1,1076.7355201911932,1087.015520191193
59820,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Because, you know, like, you're looking at the app and, like, you can see, like, there's a lot of attention to detailing things that like Yeah.",1,Speaker 1,1087.3755201911931,1092.825520191193
59821,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"It it's it's it's a different way of building. And, actually, where I try to tell people when they're thinking about joining our team or thinking about the opportunities, like Disney or a like, we're basically the software And it's a lot of fun to build in this way. And I I I've worked at where this was at.",1,Speaker 1,1093.455520191193,1112.975520191193
59822,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"I've just never been able to work in, like, this type of relief particular way. Just, like, that last 5% actually prevent you from shipping sometimes, which put it's, like, four",1,Speaker 1,1117.6155201911934,1128.6355201911933
59823,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,0,User,1128.9855201911932,1129.225520191193
59824,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"For a reason. And that reason is, like, the quality of the work that we've done put out, we want to be, like, just Yeah. Just great.",1,Speaker 1,1129.305520191193,1135.9355301911933
59825,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And and that's when he helped us a lot. So so, yeah, I joined. He's started doing in house hiring. Since I joined, we've grown organically to",1,Speaker 1,1136.415520191193,1147.7755201911932
59826,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And we acquired about 15,000 new downloads every single week.",1,Speaker 1,1153.335510191193,1157.095520191193
59827,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,K.,0,User,1157.5855201911932,1157.7455301911932
59828,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"A lot of that's driven through word-of-mouth. Friends, family, telling other people, some of it's caregiver client. K. Although we're on a clinical app, we do see it it being used pretty heavily in that type of environment. Mhmm.",1,Speaker 1,1158.6155101911932,1170.895520191193
59829,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And, yeah, I mean, like, you know about the mission, I think. I'm talking to and, you know, about probably, like, the scope and, like, the role that we're looking for. Yeah. Obviously, like, the on the scope side, one of the really interesting things that I've experienced working here that I really appreciate is, like, even for small children at a start up, you just some sort of, like, functional or vertical alignment with the role. So like,",1,Speaker 1,1172.6155101911932,1197.2955201911932
59830,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,I know.,0,User,1198.4155001911931,1198.9754901911933
59831,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"I mean, we can take, like, OpenAI or of of the mobile app or the web. Right. But with that, we feel the cool thing is is, you literally you you're gonna be, like, overseeing the whole platform.",1,Speaker 1,1199.535520191193,1219.935520191193
59832,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Right.,0,User,1220.095520191193,1220.415520191193
59833,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And so of the neat things is, like, you see all of the hypothesis generation around the how that aligns to, like, the community of people that have downloaded and found the app.",1,Speaker 1,1220.935520191193,1232.015520191193
59834,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And then what part of the funnel that impacts? And so, like, you're not not just working on maybe acquisition or engagement one feature or retention.",1,Speaker 1,1232.975520191193,1240.8755201911931
59835,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"You you're, like, literally doing the whole thing. Yeah. And it might sound overwhelming, but, actually, we're not doing, like, that kind of thing and that in tandem. Like, honestly, we're only working on, like, one thing at a time, but we're really focused the amount of stories and narrative that you can tell somebody about what you've learned after working on this for a year is, like, it's just awesome. Yeah. It's, oh, yeah. Like, yeah. We had hypothesis on, like, here's how they engage with the app or they they retained or they didn't. And then here's so",1,Speaker 1,1241.8155201911932,1275.6555201911933
59836,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"I feel like know Omi well, especially when we're talking with him, they hear me. Like, they're really notifications. Yeah. And, like, they're an expert there. Like,",1,Speaker 1,1289.455540191193,1300.8155201911932
59837,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,0,User,1303.455520191193,1303.7755201911932
59838,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,This is just much more broad. Yeah. So I Yeah. We had a lot of fun.,1,Speaker 1,1303.8555001911932,1308.7155201911933
59839,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"It's a great us, and then kind of, like, we go from there. Okay. Great. Great. And Yeah. So I like, I the app is beautiful. I mean, the the animations and the the, like, design impeccable. And you can tell there's just, like, a lot of like, I mean, I'm downloaded and played with it a little bit before the first before I talked to but, like, after doing the the code assessment and like, trying to look at what the app was doing and then and then map out what I wanted to do.",0,User,1319.225520191193,1364.5772089099196
59840,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"To do to replicate it. I was like, yeah, like, it but it did with my anymore. I'm like, oh, this is there's so much care. That's gone into it. Literally every piece of this.",0,User,1364.4972089099197,1374.2172089099195
59841,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,So yeah.,1,Speaker 1,1375.6572089099195,1376.2972289099198
59842,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And and the mission was very very compelling. Right? Like, to help people understand their feelings, like, just like, this emotionally developmental mission behind the kind of research.",0,User,1377.6971889099195,1391.3065478624635
59843,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"We have, I think, is really, really interesting and, like, I don't know. I will think that would be very fulfilling. To build something and then be like we're actually making people's lives better.",0,User,1391.3865278624635,1401.0928257082992
59844,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,This. You know?,0,User,1401.212825708299,1401.9328257082989
59845,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"So yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, that's what drew me in your edition. It's not so much the mission and I just I had never had a formal education in emotional intelligence. Yeah. I like kind of rent some stuff here and there, and over time, kind of, like, realized, oh, this is actually really and helpful really accessible to a lot of people, and it's it is really fascinating. And, yeah, building something where you're doing it to help people And at the same time, it's fun. It's like it's we really it's it's really hard to find something like to build in this way. And that's why I use that kind of, like, studio analogy. Yeah.",1,Speaker 1,1402.692825708299,1455.5328257082992
59846,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"It's just, like, there's a lot of well, you're trying to help",1,Speaker 1,1457.292825708299,1461.452875708299
59847,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,0,User,1463.5328257082992,1464.0128257082988
59848,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Right. Yeah. For sure. Right. For sure. I mean, yeah. The right piece of artistic content can can change your life. Right? It hits you at the right time in the right way, you're looking for whatever insight or whatever, you know, emotional development is you're right on that cusp of that thing, and then this story can really just lock something in for you and and change your perspective.",0,User,1472.0128257082988,1492.132865708299
59849,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Yeah, I have a few recent songs in my life where I'm like, yeah. That changed who I was. And and it's like those trying share it with somebody.",0,User,1492.442825708299,1498.8527757082989
59850,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And you realize, like, oh, no. This was, like, I was in a place where that little piece was exactly what I needed. Doesn't mean to them what it to means to me because it it was all about my mind was that right in that moment. Right?",0,User,1499.292825708299,1511.0128257082988
59851,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Means because sometimes for other people to resonate with, like, a particular biggie song or art piece. Yeah.",1,Speaker 1,1511.2228257082988,1522.572865708299
59852,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Yeah. You yeah. That's, like, really interesting, actually. One of the things that I so last week, I had a chance to talk to the so one of the things we're working on right now is a about mobilization. So we it's taking even another step back. So we receive I've never worked on any app where people actually write in all the time, and they're like, I this. Thank you. And then, like, you know, usually people are complaining. We don't really get so many complaints.",1,Speaker 1,1528.132865708299,1553.332825708299
59853,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"We usually get, like, this is amazing. Thank you. You do this, or can you do this, or how do I do this? Uh-huh. And so I'm sorry. But the main things we get is people ask me is, it two different",1,Speaker 1,1553.4928257082988,1565.252825708299
59854,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,And so we are finally prioritizing that. Yeah. It's been you can tell you how we're gonna,1,Speaker 1,1569.9328257082989,1574.0928257082992
59855,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,0,User,1579.0928257082992,1579.332825708299
59856,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"In China, and we were telling them, oh, yeah. We're gonna be doing this localization effort. But the thing is they also that foundation supports people they support education in in Hong Kong and Hong in China, but they also do traditional Chinese art. And, like, cool is that in some way, we can standardize simplified one to check into, but to allow people to attach emotion metadata to like, art pieces that they experience in a gallery.",1,Speaker 1,1598.132865708299,1632.772825708299
59857,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Oh, yeah. Yeah.",2,Speaker 2,1632.772825708299,1633.492785708299
59858,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"That teaching people could use the app in this way. Yeah. We don't really tell them how to use it. But it is kinda interesting because it's, like, that's what you're doing when you log in. You're creating these, like,",1,Speaker 1,1656.2528557082992,1664.9327957082992
59859,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Right?,2,Speaker 2,1669.252825708299,1669.5728257082992
59860,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And then now so now we're trying to figure out, like,",1,Speaker 1,1670.332875708299,1672.732825708299
59861,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Right.,2,Speaker 2,1672.852825708299,1673.332825708299
59862,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,You need to eat out a lot.,1,Speaker 1,1673.332825708299,1674.292825708299
59863,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,What we wanted people to do is This analyze tab is one of those tabs where,1,Speaker 1,1679.3428257082992,1681.3428257082992
59864,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,So Okay.,2,Speaker 2,1691.1728257082991,1691.572865708299
59865,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"You know, do we use some sort of AI synthesis to help people? Do they want that? Do they not want that? What can we do to help them make more use of the data?",1,Speaker 1,1695.0527857082989,1704.732825708299
59866,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,1,Speaker 1,1705.2528557082992,1705.9728257082988
59867,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,So Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,1706.372825708299,1706.852825708299
59868,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,I interesting. That's really interesting. So just that this is I think this is an this is just my mind.,0,User,1707.0128657082992,1714.0928257082992
59869,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Where it went.,2,Speaker 2,1714.6528257082991,1715.3727957082992
59870,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"The the mapping of of the specificity of the emotional words from language to language, I imagine that's difficult because language isn't perfect.",0,User,1715.892825708299,1726.292775708299
59871,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"There's not a one to one mapping There's not a set of words that exactly matches in another language, the set of words that you guys that the research, whatever, whatever the the emotional you know, catalog is developed in English, there isn't gonna be a perfect right? It's almost gotta be rewritten for each language because it it's the scope of a word and, like, what it you know, it's the nuance is different. Right? At that level of specificity, different.",0,User,1729.0928257082992,1755.1328257082992
59872,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"It's different. We're finding some challenges. So this one we wanted to start with Spanish. We feel like the Latin languages are probably our translation agency is telling us that the notice of note the other day said something like, there are 600,000 words in the English diction and the, like, official Spanish dictionary that is used as something like 93,000 calls. Okay. Wow.",1,Speaker 1,1755.6128257082992,1794.5728257082992
59873,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,1794.892825708299,1795.292825708299
59874,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"So the bigger challenge we actually have right now, at least with Spanish, I think with other languages we're going to find more of what you're mentioning where it's, like, action like, say for Japanese and maybe the Cyrillic languages and others, we're gonna we're gonna start or, like, German, you know, I'm gonna find a lot of words that are unique to that image that have no English equivalent. Yeah. And those cases do a lot more to figure out exactly how we how do we do we do the translation?",1,Speaker 1,1795.292825708299,1826.132865708299
59875,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,1826.132865708299,1826.372825708299
59876,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Yeah. With English to Spanish, the bigger challenge we have right now is sort of the description itself provides a nuance even though the the emotion name might be the same. Okay. It is just so many synonyms in English. Right.",1,Speaker 1,1826.692825708299,1841.7728757082991
59877,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,And there just aren't that many distinct words. The the the actual script can have the context. So now we decide literally just the said it.,1,Speaker 1,1842.292825708299,1850.732825708299
59878,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Okay. In those cases, we're gonna do is we'll remove the word that's a duplicate because our system isn't really set up to allow people to it's just a hierarchy for how they experience the app at first, and the we actually aren't doing anything with it.",1,Speaker 1,1851.212825708299,1878.212825708299
59879,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Description. Yeah. Like Yeah. And so I'm, like, it's been it's it's it's been an interesting journey so far. Like, we're Yeah.",1,Speaker 1,1878.292825708299,1884.692865708299
59880,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"In very much data, I figured out things that, do or work.",1,Speaker 1,1885.332825708299,1888.3727957082992
59881,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,So Yeah. No. That is fascinating.,0,User,1888.4528257082989,1889.892825708299
59882,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,2,Speaker 2,1892.0528257082992,1892.292825708299
59883,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Yeah.,1,Speaker 1,1892.692825708299,1893.0928257082992
59884,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,And theory of change is based off of doctor Mark Brackett's work Uh-huh. As the director of the Yale Center for Emotionalness. Uh-huh. And so his theory kind of down to three three prostatees.,1,Speaker 1,1898.372825708299,1914.9328257082989
59885,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,So the first thing that we need to have a a broad emotion vocabulary.,1,Speaker 1,1915.212825708299,1921.6528257082991
59886,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Mhmm.,2,Speaker 2,1921.8128557082991,1922.212825708299
59887,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And the second is that you should have strategies and tools that you could use in the moment if you need them. Mhmm. And the third is that you can spot changes Like like, it really that you should, like, kind of track this over time and determine determine where like, kinda where you are. And so the interesting thing is, like, emoji to indicate an emotion or they use a scale, or a number, or or maybe they're trying to use a combination, but it's not quite that scientist.",1,Speaker 1,1922.9028257082991,1960.4528257082989
59888,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Doctor. Says it's like, you know, you can be afraid or you can be angry or you could be know, let's just take those two. Let's just say, like, the emotion that you have of of when you're afraid and and the emotion when you're angry is, like, might use a different strategy to regulate either of those two",1,Speaker 1,1960.8129257082992,1980.2128257082986
59889,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Right.,2,Speaker 2,1980.732825708299,1981.052925708299
59890,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And but on top of that, also, like, let's say you're at a a scary movie in your Like, may not wanna regulate it really at all. Right.",1,Speaker 1,1981.8927257082987,1991.8129257082992
59891,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Right. So it's like it's like we have, a really kind of, like, fascinating perspective that we take in in collaboration within that together. But Alright.",1,Speaker 1,1992.332825708299,1999.652725708299
59892,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"That's a I think it's sort of stemming up this theory of change. And we're trying to think as well as, like, do we wanna kind of broaden or add to the three d in some way?",1,Speaker 1,2000.4528257082989,2010.412825708299
59893,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Add an alternative that people can experience in some way, like, but that's a little bit further field. We're we're not taking any kind of like, immediate action on that.",1,Speaker 1,2011.652725708299,2022.0928257082987
59894,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"But Right. We're thinking things like maybe it's not only in a maybe you don't have to start with it Right? Maybe Jake can come in and say, just wanna unpack this thought a little bit.",1,Speaker 1,2022.2527257082993,2036.1328257082987
59895,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,And go from there in the app.,1,Speaker 1,2036.332825708299,2037.692825708299
59896,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,The research. What I did did I have a fourth interview.,0,User,2055.972825708299,2058.372725708299
59897,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,And I realized I hadn't heard of the podcast with a podcast with with Mark.,2,Speaker 2,2058.4928257082993,2059.692825708299
59898,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,True.,0,User,2063.322825708299,2064.442825708299
59899,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"So so I had I remember having some thoughts about, like, oh, that's interesting. I wonder I am like, among my peers in my world, I'm one of the people that is better at this expressing myself. Like, translating my both internal intellectual world and emotional world into language.",0,User,2070.332825708299,2086.612825708299
59900,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"So a lot of times, I'll be in a conversation with a friend or a family member, and I will that that I I can kinda feel what they're feeling, and I can kinda help them of thinking about how I feel and trying to help. Like, you know, you put a story around the experience you're having.",0,User,2087.5328257082992,2121.972825708299
59901,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Explain it to yourself. And and it it feels like it gives you some agency.,0,User,2122.572825708299,2127.412825708299
59902,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Inside of it.,1,Speaker 1,2127.812825708299,2128.372825708299
59903,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Right?,2,Speaker 2,2128.372825708299,2128.852825708299
59904,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,Mhmm.,3,Speaker 3,2129.572825708299,2130.0528257082988
59905,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,So Yeah. Yeah.,0,User,2130.0528257082988,2131.012725708299
59906,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"And we we we believe on of the sex to we've made it quick and fast with e because a lot of these other apps that are also really good, you know, with respect to helping you introspect that yourself and that This takes so long to use, and a lot of people just aren't gonna sign up for it's just become you have to think a lot of it because there's no quantitative like, real payout. You can see that like BMI or or something else where you're, like, Yeah.",1,Speaker 1,2131.372825708299,2175.1328257082987
59907,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"I can actually see the progress here. Right. Can you sometimes try to do that with, a score? We shy away from that.",1,Speaker 1,2175.652825708299,2181.772825708299
59908,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"If you're seeing a scary movie or you're at a haunted house, it's like Yeah.",1,Speaker 1,2192.4928257082993,2195.532925708299
59909,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"Well, okay.",2,Speaker 2,2195.692825708299,2197.1328257082987
59910,c8649f5c-be28-4bdd-9f74-d1701099e677,"You know, like and you have to what we teach people is all emotions are information. You have to decide whether that information is serving you",1,Speaker 1,2197.692825708299,2203.2929257082988