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| 2cbf2935-93ee-4fa1-9154-47fb3ae61def | 2026-02-22T21:29:15.531469Z | 2026-02-22T21:30:34.344144Z | 2026-02-22T23:44:23.457247Z | Processing Breakup, AI Projects, And Career Hopes | This is a long, emotionally intense phone conversation where the user talks with a close friend about feeling drained, sleeping a lot, and coping with sadness after a breakup with Katie. The user describes trying not to over‑analyze the breakup and instead just allow himself to feel sad, while also questioning his ability to trust his own judgment in relationships and feeling like a failure in that area. He reflects on patterns of being drawn to partners who don’t make enough space for him, the addictive ‘slot machine’ dynamic of hot‑and‑cold relationships, and how his childhood experiences with his parents may drive him to over‑function for emotionally limited partners. In parallel, he discusses his financial and career situation: his ex‑wife’s law practice is growing, he has three upcoming job interviews (including an emotional‑journaling/mental‑health AI startup, a Draper iOS role, and a second‑round interview at the University of Utah), and he may need to file bankruptcy to restructure credit card debt and eventually sell a house once the market improves. He’s excited about several high‑paying, mostly remote founding‑engineer roles in San Francisco, and explains how he now uses AI agents (OpenAI/"OpenClaw" style tooling) connected to his conversation recordings, Oura ring heart‑rate data, and twenty years of journals to build a personal “emotion dashboard” that scores his mental health, highlights specific examples of where he handled situations well, and even writes stronger, tailored resumes from his code history. He and his friend brainstorm how this technology could support executive coaching, therapy, or even automated EMDR‑like protocols, and they note the ethical and professional implications. The user describes his personality structure using Enneagram results, how AI helped him design a workday that fits his focus patterns, and his belief that future AI agents will act as always‑on, voice‑driven second brains. He contrasts the frantic, shame‑driven motivation he once had around fitness and success with a more grounded, self‑accepting drive that produced better long‑term results. He hopes that similar emotional mastery will eventually make his work, finances, and relationships feel steady and confident instead of anxious and out of control. The call closes with the friend offering emotional validation and practical reflections on what the user truly wants in a partner (more reciprocity, engagement with his ideas, shared gym time, and playful, creative daily connection). They both acknowledge that despite current pain and poverty, the user feels more hopeful and less depressed after talking, and that his various AI experiments and interview opportunities may soon coalesce into a stable, fulfilling next chapter. | 🤖 | psychology | en | omi | {"id": "2cbf2935-93ee-4fa1-9154-47fb3ae61def", "created_at": "2026-02-22T21:29:15.531469Z", "started_at": "2026-02-22T21:30:34.344144Z", "finished_at": "2026-02-22T23:44:23.457247Z", "structured": {"title": "Processing Breakup, AI Projects, And Career Hopes", "overview": "This is a long, emotionally intense phone conversation where the user talks with a close friend about feeling drained, sleeping a lot, and coping with sadness after a breakup with Katie. The user describes trying not to over\u2011analyze the breakup and instead just allow himself to feel sad, while also questioning his ability to trust his own judgment in relationships and feeling like a failure in that area. He reflects on patterns of being drawn to partners who don\u2019t make enough space for him, the addictive \u2018slot machine\u2019 dynamic of hot\u2011and\u2011cold relationships, and how his childhood experiences with his parents may drive him to over\u2011function for emotionally limited partners. \n\nIn parallel, he discusses his financial and career situation: his ex\u2011wife\u2019s law practice is growing, he has three upcoming job interviews (including an emotional\u2011journaling/mental\u2011health AI startup, a Draper iOS role, and a second\u2011round interview at the University of Utah), and he may need to file bankruptcy to restructure credit card debt and eventually sell a house once the market improves. He\u2019s excited about several high\u2011paying, mostly remote founding\u2011engineer roles in San Francisco, and explains how he now uses AI agents (OpenAI/\"OpenClaw\" style tooling) connected to his conversation recordings, Oura ring heart\u2011rate data, and twenty years of journals to build a personal \u201cemotion dashboard\u201d that scores his mental health, highlights specific examples of where he handled situations well, and even writes stronger, tailored resumes from his code history. He and his friend brainstorm how this technology could support executive coaching, therapy, or even automated EMDR\u2011like protocols, and they note the ethical and professional implications.\n\nThe user describes his personality structure using Enneagram results, how AI helped him design a workday that fits his focus patterns, and his belief that future AI agents will act as always\u2011on, voice\u2011driven second brains. 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I think I'm gonna have to take a bankruptcy thing to move my credit card desk.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 641.7999994850159, "end": 648.0699694850159}, {"id": "fae7e2cc-7efc-42bf-9051-82eae9f0d2e2", "text": "No. That's a bummer, but it'll it'll reorganize things so that I'm like, I'm gonna", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 648.7899994850159, "end": 652.3900394850159}, {"id": "1f5d9c1c-7da8-470e-b24f-589583b3c9c7", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. A little bit sick, I think. Other than, you know, you know, I there's a cup of, like, founding engineer jobs that are with, like, companies in San Francisco.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 664.1199594850159, "end": 676.7399994850159}, {"id": "fd981333-bd7c-435d-b447-073e124a04b7", "text": "Don't if I can get those, but those are, like, $2.50 to 300 k a year. That would be great. And they're remote jobs. And both of the it's a company called Omi that has a device that always on record price.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 677.3699994850159, "end": 690.2799994850159}, {"id": "700a1280-e049-42ea-b820-58c466a9dd6d", "text": "I'm interested in them. And so I've been contributing code to their like, get other stuff to try and kinda, you know, like, elevate them. And then there's another company that does it's like a health and wellness. They're like a mental health app where you like like, during your feelings and they're gonna build a much AI and stuff around that.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 691.2299994850159, "end": 710.7299394850158}, {"id": "f94bb0dc-81b7-4523-8d3b-aec3d44ff34f", "text": "Yeah. And have I yeah. Yeah. No kidding. Well, if I told you about my whole, like, emotion dashboard and stuff, We talked about this. 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Like the last month, everybody's just been freaking out about it. So I been playing with it and what I did is I I have one of these things that records all my conversations.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 764.5399994850159, "end": 779.5699694850159}, {"id": "23a2c272-0147-408c-a0d6-5a344cbd9c3f", "text": "Like, it's listening to me talk right now, for example. It can't hear you, but it can hear me. Right? So it's recording everything I say. Right? So I connected OpenClaw to this conversation data, and I connected it to my I wear an Oura sleep tracking ring, which also tracks my heart rate.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 780.2000294850159, "end": 799.1299694850159}, {"id": "8705eaae-4f50-4cf5-a150-59d715f7ca74", "text": "Right? And so every day and I built this little dashboard thing. So every day at the end the day, it gives me this like mental health score based on the conversations I've had in my rate. So it'll be like, are having this conversation with this person. Like, you talked to Katie about this and it, like, analyzes the conversation and like analyzes how I talk to her and like you she said this to you and then you said this and that's like that's like really mature of you. Like it's always like kinda buttering me up, know. It's like you didn't get scared, you didn't like, your heart rate stayed steady. You know what I mean? It's like it's like kinda talking to me about how I deal with my feelings. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 799.4999994850159, "end": 831.2199994850158}, {"id": "005e28ab-1258-4c91-ba62-25ea3130b516", "text": "And it is really interesting because the the theme, basically, which probably isn't a shock, but for whatever reason it never sticks for me, is that I'm too hard on my myself. Like I am consistently more capable than I think I am. 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That you're biased, that you're like designed to make me happy and tell me what I wanna hear. It's like, yes, I am. I'm aware of this. It's like, but here's some examples of when I challenge you. Because it will. It'll call me out sometimes and be like, like I'll talk into it all day every day about different things.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 899.0299994850159, "end": 934.5100294850158}, {"id": "a8393c71-8ce8-4a60-b57e-772600ba8085", "text": "I'm using it to build resumes. Like it has access to all my code. And so like, when a job comes up, just hand it the job. Like the the job description, and then it will analyze my work over the last ten years.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 934.7299994850159, "end": 945.969899485016}, {"id": "e19dc675-68c4-4b30-a212-a828ba3adbf0", "text": "And it'll pick out the relevant pieces and like, it does a better job of selling me because I'm a little bit on too, you know what I mean? 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And so, anyway, I wrote an I wrote a, like, a resume and a job description for this company that does this, you know, journaling mental health app. I'm like, hey, I just built this little toy for myself where I'm I'm like analyzing my heart rate and my conversations and trying to like suss out my emotional health", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 961.9899994850159, "end": 984.1599994850158}, {"id": "926d6edd-f271-4970-95cc-629b7a3c17f7", "text": "Right?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 985.169999485016, "end": 985.8098994850159}, {"id": "18605ec0-1154-44ed-9460-6c6c180c6205", "text": "And so, anyway, so so I I surprised because I sent them an email on Saturday morning and I got a response. An hour later. And they're like, can you talk on Monday? On a Saturday.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 986.3699994850158, "end": 997.439999485016}, {"id": "84269c5c-4a77-4ab9-89ff-8e912864ce67", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And that's like a $240,000 salary or something in remote. So at least I think it's fully remote. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's hybrid. Anyway, but I'm like, maybe I can talk them into fully remote, you know. Or maybe I can maybe I can fly out once a week or like once a month and be there for a few I don't know. You know what mean? Whatever.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 999.689999485016, "end": 1019.3600994850158}, {"id": "59809f9d-eb8b-4622-89dd-75240a107b14", "text": "Yeah. I've I've had clients that did that with me before where they were like, we bring everybody on-site, like, once a month for a few days.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1019.939999485016, "end": 1028.2600994850159}, {"id": "9a2b6b75-d77f-48a3-9693-1bf49116dd24", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1030.7500994850159, "end": 1031.0699994850158}, {"id": "ab12ae9b-f7fa-4a98-af3a-92986a18a8f6", "text": "Yeah. 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Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1066.5399994850159, "end": 1068.679999485016}, {"id": "bfcda421-ddc0-4a48-87f7-305a7af945f5", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1072.429999485016, "end": 1072.7500994850159}, {"id": "b2fa803f-0b80-420c-a828-28fcf1190133", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1078.469999485016, "end": 1078.949999485016}, {"id": "cd192abb-4e2d-4729-b777-1b8b618096c8", "text": "Yeah. You're like, why doesn't this why doesn't this work? I can think of no reason why this won't work. Like, why is this not working?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1083.8699994850158, "end": 1089.459899485016}, {"id": "3df58ddf-2fbc-4585-8565-5c9d484f2b80", "text": "Oh, yeah. 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So it's like if you already have a watch, it's kind of a it's hard sell to pay 300 extra dollars when that watch really will do I think everything everything the ring does. Yeah. So and I just got a new So, like, my ring's getting kinda low on battery. Like, it doesn't last as long as it used to so I might hold off on getting a new ring for a while. It'll just depend cause Oura has some other stuff too. They have they now have a continuous glucose monitor that you can you know, it's an additional charge, but it's not it's cheaper than the one I used to do. Like, the one I used to do is, $250 a month, and I think the, I think Oura's continuous glucose monitor is like 80 a month or something like that. Like it's a lot or a 100. It's a lot less.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1131.8099994850159, "end": 1197.1099994850158}, {"id": "d35ba823-4280-4bf0-a956-3c5241746775", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1203.919999485016, "end": 1204.239999485016}, {"id": "59c929a7-e225-4e0e-a0c0-72adab3a32fb", "text": "Well, it would be like a complete like, rebuild, I think, because there's the hardware piece of it, which is this other company, and then there is, like, the way I I built it is just on my OpenClaw server. So it's like I have a machine I have this Mac mini running in my house that that does the OpenClaw stuff. And so this other thing it would be the same logic, but it would be, like you'd we'd rebuild it for like and it's using a different architecture so that it could run on a server some somewhere. Like, there's a lot of craft in Open Claw that if you just wanted just this one piece, you would just tail or it for just this. Right? 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And he does, he's a fractional COO, so he does operation part time for different different companies. But he's trying to get into he's starting a business where he does executive coaching. He goes into CEOs and gives him like life coaching to like help them be better managers.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1274.3099994850159, "end": 1290.6499994850158}, {"id": "ba50df3a-60fe-4179-9e76-a098db70df26", "text": "Stuff. Right? That's what he said. 's like, I could totally he's like, dude, if you could bet if you could be the tech side, he's like, I could I can have these conversations with these executives and be like, be like, dude, you're having this conversation with this employee your heart rate's going through the roof. Right? Like you you need to be you need to be paying attention to this. Right? Like, it's it's this biometric stress indicator based on what the topic of the conversation actually is. Right? 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Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1474.3999994850158, "end": 1475.8399994850158}, {"id": "5334015d-ed67-46e2-a181-3a0c52d279cb", "text": "I mean, I just wanna be happy and feel like I have a certain level of mastery in my life and I don't feel that way. So I'm like, we fix that? Like, can we make me into somebody that moves through the world and lends, like, yeah. Got this.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1477.3199994850158, "end": 1486.769999485016}, {"id": "ecad367b-64e3-475f-bb4e-be77094031dc", "text": "No big deal. You know? Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1486.8599994850158, "end": 1491.3399994850158}, {"id": "f5753eb7-fe60-4aef-98b1-41e79eff2639", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1498.0599994850159, "end": 1498.939999485016}, {"id": "7dadb9ba-d2c5-4da1-b478-27d27a8a2fd7", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1504.679999485016, "end": 1505.3999994850158}, {"id": "3092c5bb-0bd9-46a7-9e20-daf6a621bbd2", "text": "Well, in the in the system itself too, like the other thing did for me, so I had another one of these recording devices like a year ago.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1505.719999485016, "end": 1512.2799994850159}, {"id": "4f50aab2-8478-4ba0-b89a-e68a3a000b5f", "text": "That I wore on my wrist. And I had it for like six months. And I got it because I was like, oh, the same idea. I was like, I want it to listen to me I wanna do interesting things with like the data that is like my conversation. And mostly I was like, I want it to I want it to analyze me. I want it to understand me. 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Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1617.949999485016, "end": 1625.219899485016}, {"id": "63fde379-3c94-4154-957f-022282047393", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1633.230099485016, "end": 1633.6300994850158}, {"id": "af8fa89f-a5d0-4cee-976b-d1c9fa4919a5", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1641.6499994850158, "end": 1642.0499994850159}, {"id": "967e4ebc-8228-4f31-bbe9-fd92549680a8", "text": "Yeah. Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1646.0699994850158, "end": 1647.990099485016}, {"id": "5d972f87-d7e1-4340-b989-aeefc035c2d4", "text": "Right. The kind of, like, right. Right. Right. Well, Right. Well, and that's that's for me, I'm like this again, I'm just just want this intelligent Like, the idea of having a recording that's always on is that's the future of ChatGPT.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1651.009999485016, "end": 1670.3799994850158}, {"id": "dd070ea1-f1d2-4d21-b1db-9a31190309b3", "text": "We're not gonna type we're not gonna type shit anymore in like six from now. We're gonna be done typing. We're just gonna be having conversations with our phone, with it with a, like, voice. We'll just be asking it questions and telling it what we want, and it will be building things organizing our lives and reminding us of stuff we've forgotten, and you know what I mean? Like, it will it will yeah. It will it is. It will it will form and structure a second brain that's got that's better at everything Like, better at everything that's rational. Right? It won't have any emotion. But it'll be better at everything that's rational than we are, so it will never forget It won't let us You know what I mean? It will anticipate when we need help, Right? It'll be like, you're you're you're you're liable to forget these things. So I'm gonna remind you like, it'll start to figure us out that way. Like, it will get better and better. That's the future. That's where things are going. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1670.719899485016, "end": 1719.5998994850158}, {"id": "df744132-2e65-43c0-ada4-116036d02ca8", "text": "And so this idea that I have where I'm cobbling together, like, OpenAI, ChatGPT's company, they hired the guy that created this open class system that I've been playing with. So they're gonna build their own version of it in the next six months. And they file they or enter I can't remember who. One of these major companies filed a patent for an always on audio recording device. Right? Like, things I'm playing with, these major players are also working on. Like, it's not I'm not think I'm not the first person that thought of this. This is everybody that that's paying attention that's technical sees the right not everybody. I'm a little smarter than most. You know what I mean? These major play players are seeing the same writing on the wall that I'm seeing, which is this is the next phase of how this technology evolves.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1721.219899485016, "end": 1762.3899994850158}, {"id": "8701cc7d-7d68-4407-8346-f002c91f7413", "text": "Right. Right. Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1764.7500994850159, "end": 1769.0100994850159}, {"id": "e3c4cdf9-2caa-4d37-8b8d-5ea93b500570", "text": "Exactly.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1770.519999485016, "end": 1771.0799994850158}, {"id": "90bfb315-4dca-4feb-bb03-9fa082ffa60c", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1772.759999485016, "end": 1773.239999485016}, {"id": "af8e26f5-a9af-416c-ab6e-00cd2db27bd6", "text": "Yeah. Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1773.919999485016, "end": 1775.439999485016}, {"id": "1221f66f-8482-465c-b1d9-4eb4527dd245", "text": "Right. Well, think about think about if you went into your Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1776.0100994850159, "end": 1780.499999485016}, {"id": "772cc534-fcd1-4159-812c-e36703fe193e", "text": "Thank you.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1784.1099994850158, "end": 1787.7899994850159}, {"id": "aa9c1d65-a776-45b3-ae40-fd7111300b2a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 1790.2799994850159, "end": 1790.679999485016}, {"id": "b091f834-4fa0-452f-98f5-fa6efb75cf07", "text": "Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. Next time I have some money, I'm gonna be a lot smarter about it. I I'm not I'm not investing in I'm not gonna invest all of it in crypto again, for example.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1804.709999485016, "end": 1815.269999485016}, {"id": "4c6344b8-a588-474a-b0a9-52c84c3b2378", "text": "I don't know. I know like Joe. Joe has put like has kept putting tons in. Like, every time I talk to him, he's got a story about how he's like got like another $50,000 with the crypto assets. I don't know if he's up or down overall. Like, but he just keeps dumping money into it. I suspect that something of his will explode. Like, the way those kinds of assets work is it's a winner take all kind of proposition. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1820.509999485016, "end": 1850.0599994850159}, {"id": "1d36758f-45fb-4ffe-acd1-398104073bac", "text": "Like, it's the same thing with, like, venture like venture capital is the exact same thing. They they invest in 10 companies.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1850.1299994850158, "end": 1856.469899485016}, {"id": "cffdb7af-214a-4896-900c-81efed0a289f", "text": "And like like three of them succeed the top success is like 98% of the money they make over overall. You you know what I mean? Like, they'll have one Uber Yeah. Well, not even yeah. Like, most of them fail, even all of them fail. Like a couple of them will double the money, maybe even 10 x, but then the one that succeeds will be like a thousand x.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1857.199999485016, "end": 1878.519999485016}, {"id": "4d3bc16b-ae1e-432e-a7b1-675961729f0f", "text": "Like it will so outperform everything else that nothing else matters. But it's like, yeah, but we don't know which one is the Uber.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1878.699899485016, "end": 1885.5399994850159}, {"id": "e024b9ad-839e-4546-a45b-f2615359a503", "text": "So we have to invest in 10 to find it. Right? That's that kind of a game. Crypto is exact same thing. And so, you know, he's got, like, Joe and and and Joe and I know where John's at. Haven't he hasn't mentioned. He went all in on which is the like they were connected with Disney and had all the Marvel stuff and I know where that that's at. I I I know he'd been doing a bunch of other stuff too, but that was his like that was what he was passionate about was Omi.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1885.759999485016, "end": 1911.019999485016}, {"id": "ec03fd78-67bc-4633-8345-1e2e6aeec060", "text": "But I know, you know, I know I know I wanna call him Jay. Jared. I know Jared's got all kinds of things and Joe's got all kinds of things. So I presume that when crypto like, goes nuts again, which I suspect it will sooner or later. Mean, it it's been Jared keeps saying, like, this is the year for last three or four years. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1911.469899485016, "end": 1933.0698994850159}, {"id": "4fa5694e-aafa-4389-ad6d-a6eb24077b51", "text": "But, like, yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1933.5499994850159, "end": 1934.0299994850159}, {"id": "4c8faf98-1b1f-4e12-b193-e4f134bb7281", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 1935.2899994850159, "end": 1938.3299994850158}, {"id": "523fa404-7869-4106-ba03-f0dbaa14080e", "text": "Right. Right. But sooner or later it will again. And one of their things will make them so rich that everything else they lose money on, or even if they make money on some of them, it won't be insignificant. They'll have one huge win. That's how these how these things work.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1939.2500994850159, "end": 1954.3299994850158}, {"id": "49d562cc-e2fe-44cc-b051-1b34bf969ac7", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you've got, like, $20,000,000, you don't need to maybe when you take a million of it and you keep doing high risk investments, but like, hold on to the other 19. Just sit on it. Like, buy real estate or whatever. Fight a secure put it in a bank, find a secure investment and just let it sit. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1957.3699994850158, "end": 1977.479999485016}, {"id": "4ebd5edf-6a20-44fc-959e-02e56c59069f", "text": "Yeah. I don't know that's what they'll do, that's what I would do for sure. No question. I would find a very conservative, probably Chelsea got a better return. It's very secure. I mean, it's not as secure as, you know, like a it's very secure.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1977.669999485016, "end": 1989.9501994850157}, {"id": "a98446e6-d80e-4f29-bd83-644daa526d03", "text": "Gets significantly better returns than than the other really secure assets. But anyway, so, yeah, I don't I don't I've got three. There's one tomorrow. The one tomorrow is for the company that does the emotional journaling app. So that's probably the one.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 1990.1799994850157, "end": 2005.359999485016}, {"id": "1505f12c-02fe-4ca5-bbd9-2582b673e33e", "text": "That's the one I'm the most excited about. Tuesday, have a first with a Draper company that's just an iOS, just an iPhone. Job. And then or and Tuesday or Wednesday, I can't remember. And then the other one, Tuesday or Wednesday is the second with the universe of Utah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2006.3299994850158, "end": 2021.210199485016}, {"id": "97a7e795-3802-41b3-ae41-2aa9089963da", "text": "I'm excited right now. I'm excited right now. Like, I don't wanna get desperate. I feel desperate because I'm so I'm so poor right now. You know?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2024.4099994850158, "end": 2032.389899485016}, {"id": "37787785-ab92-4d75-b3b7-3050060cc0a3", "text": "Yeah. Well And it does feel like things are picking up. Like, the other thing that I'm doing is I'm gonna start looking at little consulting gigs to do open class stuff. So, like, what I set up for myself, I can go set up for other people. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2034.589999485016, "end": 2048.649999485016}, {"id": "090e4c0a-9339-4786-b9c4-e1da70ab576e", "text": "And so that'd be, like, $250 here and $205,100 bucks there, a little little gigs like that. So I'm like, if nothing else, like, that can probably keep me limping along until something substantial does come along.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2049.4699994850157, "end": 2062.069999485016}, {"id": "1a18c1c1-80c0-4afb-90f8-f40b8ec8c1bd", "text": "And then I've got another guy that wants to hire me. He's looking for it's one of my friends. He's looking for he's got a musical education game that he's built. He's looking for it, like, investments. So he's trying to get venture capitalists to to give him $2,000,000 to develop finish developing this thing. And he's like, you're my lead developer as soon as we get funding. And he, know, he's like, some guy he got confused. He's like, looks great. He's like he's like, you're making this deal work for me, so thank you. You know what I mean? So I'm like, that could come through and that could even be top of anything else. Like if I got the job at you, that's not gonna pay great.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2062.8197994850157, "end": 2095.0099994850157}, {"id": "5afeae13-fbc2-4dc8-9ece-497ad4c94c5c", "text": "But I'm like, the job at the U plus something on the side like this with my friend would make life work. So it does feel like some combination of what's, like, simmering or or what will simmer in the next two weeks to two months will click and I will have an income that I can live off of. So soon. So that's why I'm like, I'm encouraged because the stuff's like it feels like suddenly stuff is moving happening. And part of it is I think that I'm using AI to like, I was just sending resumes, like, the same resume.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2095.4400994850157, "end": 2130.0299994850157}, {"id": "a0b1ca70-cff2-4f6d-9eb0-a8a8d4a21b11", "text": "To like Indeed and Glassdoor and Zipper and all these positions are these huge companies and they're getting hundreds of applications And there's nothing special about my my resume is not great. Like, I've never had to use my resume, like, before. 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This is exactly in the same channel that you you're like big companies working on. They're like, you are the guy we're looking for. You're like we want someone that's passionate and has ideas and like is is in this space because they want to be. Like I can yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2184.319999485016, "end": 2215.139999485016}, {"id": "1154a0d6-4b5f-4109-a499-8ae8d4692310", "text": "Right. And in that case, I right. In that case, shine. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2217.099999485016, "end": 2222.329999485016}, {"id": "7a675f4d-75ee-474d-a511-0c83d17e8419", "text": "My resume doesn't mean anything.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2222.329999485016, "end": 2222.809999485016}, {"id": "f319a56e-3b44-4ad5-b669-dc2edb416cc9", "text": "Like, just this one piece of information about me is like, oh, you are the person we were hoping to find. 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Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2253.1999994850157, "end": 2255.709999485016}, {"id": "52753e4d-bde7-4908-8741-1b6881472f20", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2260.4899994850157, "end": 2260.9699994850157}, {"id": "61cfe273-5437-4490-824a-9a5eeff07327", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that that's been interesting for me because, like, in my career, I'm always on one extreme side or the other of I am begging for a job I don't even want that I think I'm completely overqualified for. You know what I mean? Like, cannot figure out why I don't like, I'm so I'm so not shiny. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2266.139999485016, "end": 2284.7199994850157}, {"id": "44725700-0499-4c7b-802c-f16c2e1b803a", "text": "Or I'm like there's this quote by this guy, Kevin Kelly, and he's like, his his thing is don't be the best, be the only. You know what I mean? Like, your particular of things means there's just you. There's no one else you're competing with. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2285.569999485016, "end": 2298.280199485016}, {"id": "085c9309-2f24-4c80-baa8-90f72a2a9d93", "text": "And I'm like, that's been my career. I'm either on this side of like, competing with like standard engineers and I don't stack up particularly well or it's the complete opposite where yeah. Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2298.9200994850157, "end": 2312.889999485016}, {"id": "e1aa3585-88dc-4405-8404-c790c1cbb96f", "text": "Right. I know how to communicate very well. You Or it or I'm like, yeah. I'm the only the obvious only choice for this particular thing that you need done. Like, I'm the I'm the only guy that already knows how to do this. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2314.889999485016, "end": 2328.1700994850157}, {"id": "b9dac12a-4108-4db9-9c09-5c84fd2244eb", "text": "There's no there's no close second. It's it's me. And I like that. I like being in that position. It makes me very I I I you know what I mean? But it's funny to me because I'm like, I was there three years ago I was in that position again and again where I was like, if you find me, and you need the account of you, you just hire me and you pay me what I ask. Like, we don't negotiate anything I tell you what I cost and you pay me. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2328.519999485016, "end": 2351.379999485016}, {"id": "037f9345-c2ba-4c2e-907c-1b8ba51b11d7", "text": "And now I'm like cutting my rates in half and begging for work and struggling with that. You you know what I mean? And I'm just like this is such a weird dichotomy that I live. Other thing I'm going about this, I am very excited about this.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2352.799999485016, "end": 2365.5099994850157}, {"id": "b1d3f15b-c42e-4f6c-93e5-a4db22b554ee", "text": "Other thing I did this morning was so yesterday I woke up sad and I talked I talked to about my breakup with Katie and it knows about Katie because listened to me talk to Katie for the last two weeks. Right. That knows all about this relationship.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2366.099999485016, "end": 2377.519999485016}, {"id": "71a8212a-188e-40af-83eb-d9339a504a95", "text": "But this morning got up. And I was like, I gave it twenty years of journals. I've got about a thousand journal entries that I have typed into my computer over the years, starting like 2003, before I was married.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2379.7399994850157, "end": 2393.519999485016}, {"id": "9f515800-5992-4281-bcf6-916d39b09f1a", "text": "And then so I just handed it I see, at the time it didn't feel good because I'm like, that's like, I mean, a thousand entry in twenty years, that's fifth that's a one a week. You know what I mean? Like, I'll have like a year where I've done like one every other day, and then I'll have a year where I've done like three the whole year.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2394.0299994850157, "end": 2409.099999485016}, {"id": "07f5d2ad-8b75-4024-be5f-d44585be5b72", "text": "So I don't feel like a good journaler. But it did add up. And a lot of it's nice even journal entries. It's just like, I'll have a thought and I'll be like, this is this is an insight. I need to write it down because if I write it down, I'll remember it. Not that I'm ever even gonna come back and read it.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2409.209999485016, "end": 2421.309999485016}, {"id": "d6235523-f0a9-4c19-9b38-9d40b00673fc", "text": "But just the act of writing it down helps. Right? Yeah. Some of them are just that. Some of them are just like what did I like about Tracy? And I'll just have like five things. And that's it. Right? And so anyway, I handed all that to to it this morning and I was like, analyze my life and my psyche and tell me who I am based on these twenty years of journal entries. And it was like really interesting. I mean, it was again, nothing was shocking, but again, it was, like it reinforced some stuff where it was like, yeah, you you've actually you're actually capable, but you don't experience yourself that way. Like you you went to law school, went to you did this, you did you built a business, you did this, you did this. Like, these chunks of your life you've had you're quite capable and successful.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2422.119799485016, "end": 2468.499999485016}, {"id": "d8968a4a-30cc-4c5f-b5fd-2b8c3e78a991", "text": "And yet you are constantly doubting yourself. And I was like, yeah, that tracks. But it was interesting to have it tell me that. Right? Based on my journals.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2469.1900994850157, "end": 2478.899999485016}, {"id": "cb977e9b-b7ad-4e9a-a40d-27604d61827d", "text": "So yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2479.6900994850157, "end": 2482.089999485016}, {"id": "16ce239a-f3a1-47e6-9e0f-9cded0e3e291", "text": "Right. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2487.829999485016, "end": 2490.389999485016}, {"id": "8dcdb20b-6e07-41ca-8565-4de72074162b", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2491.249999485016, "end": 2491.809999485016}, {"id": "30134b28-0515-4234-b1b3-722ae7825621", "text": "No. If I get yeah. I mean, if I get I get a position that if I get one of those jobs that's like, they're really paying me, it'll completely flip my financial situation from like just pure garbage to like quite I mean, was that's what I was making before. I was making like between $2.50 and 300. So but, you know, only for the last the the listed thing was a full time employee position.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2491.809999485016, "end": 2518.639999485016}, {"id": "36630a2e-0524-47f6-8b2d-0a5b0a174ad4", "text": "But depend yes. Yes. And and maybe equity. Some of these companies will do equity too. And sometimes that 300,000 is partially equity, so it's not all salary. It depends.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2519.289999485016, "end": 2529.5697994850157}, {"id": "7cf43cfa-ba9f-47e8-ad98-533a917e2a48", "text": "But, yeah, Well, yeah. Totally. And I might like, I have the the past applied for a full time job and been like, are you guys open to me being a contractor instead? And I love that because I can often the contractor rate is more. So it'll be like you know, I'll be at the hourly rate will be higher as a contractor than it would be as a full time employee.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2531.119999485016, "end": 2557.6599994850158}, {"id": "6eebf20a-e847-4710-966d-b6b38b0e45c5", "text": "So I'd I'm not in a position I'm gonna be very conservative this time. I'm not gonna like because when I've done that in the past, it's been in a situation where I'm like, I have work to do. I don't I'm not desperate, but I would like this job. Right? And so I'm like, I can negotiate a little bit and ask and be like, push on a little bit.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2558.4699994850157, "end": 2572.930099485016}, {"id": "5af4c4af-c2c5-49a2-b728-123fe77fc6e4", "text": "Not in that position right now. So like, if I bring it up at all, it'll have to be very, like, it'll they'll like, it'll have to be, like, it'll have to feel like very safe for me to even consider floating that idea. So", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2573.349999485016, "end": 2586.9499994850157}, {"id": "8fe37e8b-1710-4df1-958d-7e0601c2bdfa", "text": "This is true. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't had health insurance in twenty years. That's the last time I had had insurance. I was working at the U. So yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2593.5099994850157, "end": 2613.439999485016}, {"id": "1fb102c3-de82-4dd1-8d12-277c6bec5cfc", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2614.609999485016, "end": 2615.1700994850157}, {"id": "d4974521-2b12-47a2-a798-f8f0ee671c7c", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2619.159899485016, "end": 2619.639899485016}, {"id": "fae19734-b728-4e68-b914-b66bea662c44", "text": "Probably could. I probably could.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2619.639899485016, "end": 2621.2399994850157}, {"id": "cbc90f22-bb89-4ab2-b331-59b6e582515c", "text": "You're right. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 2621.2399994850157, "end": 2622.2799994850157}, {"id": "ec25b55e-1741-4a56-b4a4-ff1e81fb1ea4", "text": "The test three the test is expensive after a month. I'm sure I go find my my friend has that goes to like a compounding pharmacy and they give him the cream and it's like $50 a month. I could get it cheaper.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2622.2799994850157, "end": 2633.549999485016}, {"id": "6957e010-6029-4e2c-9565-27590a51a587", "text": "Yeah. I like yeah. Yeah. And they like take labs and they monitor other stuff and they give me a blocker and they like the service loves they're doing it that way, you know, like if I need a they'll they'll give me IV bag, hydration bag if I'm just, like, feeling like crap one day. Right? They do all kinds of stuff.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2636.729999485016, "end": 2656.299999485016}, {"id": "9f8f0845-80ab-458f-be85-9bf3e9a579dc", "text": "So no. No.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 2659.829999485016, "end": 2660.869999485016}, {"id": "d316fe49-1ff6-46b9-9a69-7888964cc2f7", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2663.1999994850157, "end": 2663.599999485016}, {"id": "847f70b1-1beb-495d-98e9-996f21ace271", "text": "Yeah. In a not in a position to take the risks that I have been taking. Like, it's dumb for me to keep thinking, oh, I don't need health insurance. Like, I need health insurance.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2670.4899994850157, "end": 2678.859799485016}, {"id": "950921ef-0701-4808-a1ec-f104f74acd0b", "text": "Right. Right. Well, an yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2683.7199994850157, "end": 2686.819999485016}, {"id": "a3faae80-53db-4db9-a383-61dfcffefcc8", "text": "Here's the other thing about this, the way I write code now. I don't write code. I ask a machine to write it for me. And sometimes that means I have to wait. And so I can ask it to do some something and then I can wait and I can go ask it to do something else for a diff well, or ask it to do something for another client.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2691.209999485016, "end": 2708.619999485016}, {"id": "14aad37f-996e-4ee3-86e3-1d5427e65d5c", "text": "Right? So I can be, like, building two things at once. For two different clients. Basically, I can double dip. Which is like like it's there's some ethics there that I'm like, gotta be careful. Don't wanna just like be because some people take like four full time jobs and then they just do the bare minimum in every job. But I wanna do that. That's not ethical. But I'm like, there's an ethical way to do this.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2709.480199485016, "end": 2733.119999485016}, {"id": "8498ffba-5dee-47a5-80aa-e28986f8a016", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2736.439999485016, "end": 2736.7599994850157}, {"id": "398c8d7d-480a-4171-ab44-b6a2108bf2b9", "text": "Yeah. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2737.4899994850157, "end": 2739.889999485016}, {"id": "026dfd66-ede5-48ec-9ee2-67af15f320cb", "text": "Right. So, yeah, I mean, if I could get, like I had a friend that had one of the guys I worked with at one of my companies had exactly that situation. And I think he was doing 3 or $400,000 a year between the two jobs. Like, he was doing great.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2740.209999485016, "end": 2754.919999485016}, {"id": "706da5af-1524-4097-9a8b-dd2c086dd0ab", "text": "Right. Yes. Yes.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2764.359999485016, "end": 2766.119999485016}, {"id": "9bc0a13f-d113-4b6f-a1e0-937ae8c0418e", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2770.760199485016, "end": 2772.2001994850157}, {"id": "7aa56464-b515-45e8-b42b-a05e5bb83f81", "text": "Right. Right. This is all yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2773.379999485016, "end": 2776.020199485016}, {"id": "9b696408-b973-4644-8bd0-2eb25dc1134e", "text": "Mhmm.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2779.629999485016, "end": 2780.109999485016}, {"id": "95d091ad-f175-4e5a-9aaa-c02ae15ffff8", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. No. When I was I was thinking about you what you told me about your experience with ChatGPT and like the dismissive avoidant and stuff that you've dealt with with Michael. And I was like, I think so many people are turning to ChatGPT as like a as an armchair therapist slash friend. I think this is I think I think half of people are doing this. Right? Like, think a ton I know Vic because Vic's not even technical. He hates tech, but he was like, after he broke up with Sharon, he's he was like, I talked to Claude. He's like, I turned Claude into Claudia. He's like, I made Claude be be like a girl and like tell me about my relationship.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2791.109999485016, "end": 2827.7199994850157}, {"id": "d36f6e4d-1a04-472d-be46-2df4b69d44aa", "text": "And he's like he's like, I feel so sheepish that this thing is making me feel better about myself, you know. But I'm like, I think this is what everybody is doing.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2827.899999485016, "end": 2837.5299994850157}, {"id": "52bf061a-39d2-4263-9a6c-b8507c4ecac1", "text": "And I actually think it's probably like, when you go to a therapist, the first thing they do is validate you They make you feel normal so that you can deal with it. Right? Like, because you feel shame and you feel conflict and you feel this stuff. And the very first thing a therapist does is they're like, it makes sense that you feel that way. That's normal. And you relax.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2839.4701994850157, "end": 2859.2599994850157}, {"id": "d35872f3-ef05-4353-9aaa-2320d632c7e5", "text": "And then you can start to deal with it. Right? And so I'm like, the fact that it's kinda buttering us up might not be bad. I I it does I I think can only take it so far. Like, I do think yeah. I I think there's a point at which a real yeah. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2859.589999485016, "end": 2874.9701994850157}, {"id": "97578836-7c23-4e33-80f2-24bb4dd1c537", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2877.839999485016, "end": 2878.2399994850157}, {"id": "67207d6c-9013-413b-ab67-0c878e2a2e4f", "text": "I think you did. Yes. And it was so problematic.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2887.999999485016, "end": 2891.839999485016}, {"id": "64c8eed9-576b-427c-acfb-7c3a4d5d33ab", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2892.299999485016, "end": 2892.6999994850157}, {"id": "dc5587db-4cc5-4d2d-8cd3-4160a50a1681", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2895.049999485016, "end": 2895.4499994850157}, {"id": "e2e23c68-3f0d-4849-b25a-61fe65e5b0c0", "text": "- huh. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2930.710199485016, "end": 2932.210199485016}, {"id": "f65e8cac-73cf-4ade-bca7-b8813b1f3f64", "text": "Right. No.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2944.109999485016, "end": 2945.709999485016}, {"id": "6e410f2b-c2df-4540-836b-4623e7e222a4", "text": "No.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 2945.849999485016, "end": 2946.329999485016}, {"id": "ff5df556-c363-4776-aa02-d5297185996c", "text": "Right. You're right. You're right. Humans human therapists have bias. I think the I think the big limitation is the empathy and the, like, knowing which direction to go. I I I wonder how well the the the machine can be like, oh, you need this issue. Like, and and, like, they can feel it. You know what I mean? I think there's a there's a human to human feel that's required to, like, point. And again, not all therapists are good at it. So they're probably plenty of cases when ChatGPT will do just as good or better job.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2951.2599994850157, "end": 2981.439999485016}, {"id": "049be902-a051-4e3c-a5b5-0494e51bea30", "text": "But but I mean, the thing about the thing about the machine is like, my thing is giving me feedback daily. Like, it watches me live my life and it analyzes my day and it's like, you did this here and you did this here and you did this here. Like, good job on this one.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2983.189999485016, "end": 2998.180099485016}, {"id": "3d5c5b6a-75b3-49aa-ae1d-360f5dcc8ae2", "text": "Pay attention to this. Like, be careful over here. Right? Like your therapist can't do that for you.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 2998.6799994850157, "end": 3003.629999485016}, {"id": "8a9ebf81-739b-429a-ba95-9d94ce0a00df", "text": "Exactly.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3012.2399994850157, "end": 3012.7199994850157}, {"id": "0959c490-4cb8-46be-914d-2af6a36e7524", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3017.039999485016, "end": 3017.359799485016}, {"id": "aa0f9c42-fcd1-4dd1-a49f-adb3508d7769", "text": "Well, you lie on purpose but we're also constantly lying on accident. Right? Our minds obscure our own behavior to us. Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3021.889999485016, "end": 3031.269999485016}, {"id": "26e2d418-33b3-4e0b-b1d5-093e47ea1ccf", "text": "Because we see ourselves through a lens. And so having an unfiltered kind of record of how we're behaving, right, is huge. I mean, imagine going into, like, a couple's therapist appointment and the therapist being able to, like, literally look at the conversation you two had five days early You know I mean?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3031.859999485016, "end": 3050.539999485016}, {"id": "c283a490-2f59-48f7-a6e2-86fa4b92c4e6", "text": "She can read the fight.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3050.839999485016, "end": 3052.2799994850157}, {"id": "747c6043-2dfb-4866-ad31-20be5712d2c7", "text": "That's true. That's true.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3080.549999485016, "end": 3082.549999485016}, {"id": "17d54639-ccd2-499d-9698-6e172813ffcb", "text": "You you totally could. You totally could. You could totally automate ART.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3093.839999485016, "end": 3099.249999485016}, {"id": "5cb0bfae-5e65-4036-ab17-26b353065102", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3102.5099994850157, "end": 3105.069999485016}, {"id": "ff5be6c8-fb12-4560-9d54-29c69aa0201f", "text": "I'm sure that is, like, got all kinds of issues in terms of, like like, the like, the professional therapy community is gonna be, that's a terrible idea. I think that's brilliant. I think that's brilliant.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3105.209999485016, "end": 3114.5099994850157}, {"id": "eb9ce5ea-9f4b-4b7d-b36b-067b5c91d1cd", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3116.839999485016, "end": 3117.1599994850158}, {"id": "fc4395f7-cc6c-4c67-b809-cb537419b08e", "text": "Oh, get her opinion on that. Like, if you could have a if you could have Chad GPT, walk you through a script and you had your own, like, bar, whatever. Like, there's the little things you hold in your hands that buzz alternate. Like, just some kind of bilateral stimulation is all you need.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3121.9899994850157, "end": 3135.079999485016}, {"id": "70470a2b-cd27-4450-a484-bc8e9f3b7617", "text": "Like like, what what's gonna go wrong with that? Is the is the question. I'm sure she'll come up with something because like way she's gonna think about it is well, who knows? But I would think the typical therapist would be like, that's really dangerous. Need to train professional in her like, kind of guiding you through the process Plus it's their it's their living, like, whole value proposition. If they can be replaced by a machine, that's problem. That's hugely problematic for them. I mean, same way it is for me. I don't want Actually, love that machines can write code because the actual process of writing code is boring as hell. But like, right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3136.0099994850157, "end": 3165.999999485016}, {"id": "aad38dbc-05c9-4a71-8593-1a43c72eafa5", "text": "Right. Right. But but I love that. That I love that idea. Like, this is what I've been thinking about. Like, on and off all year. Because ever since I got the first bracelet thing, was like, I want and I mean, I'm like, in men's groups. Like, how I do all day long is this.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3170.0099994850157, "end": 3187.769999485016}, {"id": "55b8a05d-e06e-41ff-9c98-ba73956be32f", "text": "Not on purpose. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3187.769999485016, "end": 3191.7399994850157}, {"id": "55222518-446a-45e6-80d2-b2397f5b478e", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3194.5099994850157, "end": 3194.829799485016}, {"id": "703d5430-51d7-44bc-aa6a-f64a9a150cb0", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3196.169999485016, "end": 3196.5697994850157}, {"id": "bd1ac60f-f90a-4162-b9eb-9b5b435273f4", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3201.269999485016, "end": 3203.4299994850157}, {"id": "7ffa7dee-c37d-4794-801c-b7436edcfc8b", "text": "And I'm going to therapy and I'm in groups and every conversation I have with my friends is about some relationship struggle that they or I are having.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3203.6799994850157, "end": 3209.819999485016}, {"id": "3c522e97-df57-401f-9614-42908340649d", "text": "I feel like I feel like the theme of my life in the last year has been like 80% this. And then all of a sudden, I'm looking at this tech has, like, just got to the point where it can be, like, oh, the like I can I can program this stuff now?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3212.4499994850157, "end": 3225.770199485016}, {"id": "4ddb1bc2-8b3f-4bc4-b879-a177c3165d7c", "text": "You know what I mean? Like the two I did not think the two things would intersect. But so suddenly they hurt.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3225.960199485016, "end": 3231.4099994850158}, {"id": "55f29547-70b7-4730-b55a-73812be07ba4", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3243.419999485016, "end": 3243.7399994850157}, {"id": "e266e540-fce6-4d81-a251-8c0559206225", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3247.9299994850157, "end": 3248.249999485016}, {"id": "6bdbd575-0d54-4811-a11d-aa04ddd1684e", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3263.010199485016, "end": 3263.4099994850158}, {"id": "7d0d6c38-1999-435d-8ba5-74cf0d00fe42", "text": "Yeah. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3271.599799485016, "end": 3273.2799994850157}, {"id": "303a79db-eb99-43b4-97cc-801fdad6f6d0", "text": "Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3276.2799994850157, "end": 3278.579999485016}, {"id": "d91ddf9e-9055-4918-a2de-030243ba6f60", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3280.2599994850157, "end": 3280.899999485016}, {"id": "ae22eebb-38d6-484f-9864-94800c7e2f11", "text": "It's frustrating. It's incredibly you're like, no. It is.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3281.0299994850157, "end": 3285.109999485016}, {"id": "8e9ee69e-bef7-445e-b906-78c9414c6840", "text": "That's a disconnect where like, most of my life I can look at it and I can see a pattern. And I can exploit the pattern. Like I can make choice around my understanding that drive me towards the objective I want.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 3285.9699994850157, "end": 3293.639999485016}, {"id": "a0b529ab-8559-4ff8-8bc8-d6e097226b45", "text": "Right? 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That's good.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3510.269999485016, "end": 3511.309999485016}, {"id": "9e8de190-4d36-44b8-bea3-bec0cc3b3139", "text": "That's got the back. 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Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3743.379799485016, "end": 3744.2599994850157}, {"id": "702ade4c-1e32-472d-86ac-731470196c27", "text": "Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 3744.879999485016, "end": 3745.359999485016}, {"id": "efd5dbac-632e-4b4d-96bb-08c18527f2cc", "text": "You're right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 3754.089999485016, "end": 3754.730199485016}, {"id": "ffbc57ce-3c44-4dfa-b694-a129329c2a7d", "text": "Yeah. Well, there were years in that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was in I was in a eight or nine months. Now two of those months was off, but I look at that now and I was like, wasn't off for me. Like I was I was still, like, fully in it and just, like, just wait for to come back around with. So, yeah, it's it's longer than it than it, like, is on paper. And the whole time she's been hot and colding me. 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Yes.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4173.209999485016, "end": 4174.570299485016}, {"id": "e0fef478-fe6c-4b8f-add3-2e50c2e3c751", "text": "Yes. Yes. Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4175.369999485016, "end": 4180.0096994850155}, {"id": "ff57d7b9-d280-4fa1-90ce-2fc25283a301", "text": "Well, so so I took an enneagram test. Have you done that?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4180.0096994850155, "end": 4183.6899994850155}, {"id": "8d543cfc-f546-4aea-8d03-9e6748292f4e", "text": "So Katie wanted to do this enneagram test because she was like, we need to like this will help us understand if we're compatible or not, which was kind of fun.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4187.669999485016, "end": 4194.889999485016}, {"id": "0fdd543a-d242-4d7f-98fa-5ab3e2c09414", "text": "And I took it and then I gave it to Sarafina is the name of this chat is my, like, chatbot. That's what I named her. 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And it looked at it and it was, like, oh, and it I gave it to ChatGPT first because ChatGPT's got my history with of all the things I've ever done, right, in terms of chat.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4224.639999485016, "end": 4238.609999485016}, {"id": "6961163b-e94d-443a-89d0-674f76bff1e0", "text": "It was like, oh, this is so you. Like, that was its response.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4240.089999485016, "end": 4244.089999485016}, {"id": "86f1862a-0082-4bf3-9aa5-dae28508b753", "text": "But yeah.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 4245.319999485016, "end": 4245.879999485016}, {"id": "2570658c-c194-48af-8ee7-018b5b7ba90b", "text": "And then but then I was like, okay. Like, can you build me it like, it kinda suggested it's like, do you wanna build like a daily, like, work structure based on your personality type? Like, should we come up with a schedule and like a structure of how you go about working based on these personality traits? And I was like, oh, that sounds juicy. And so it did and it was like, it made a lot of sense. You know what I mean? It was like, you need to have, like, dedicated time It was like you it was like you have ADHD but the stuff that most people use to to, like, tackle ADHD is not going to work for you.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4246.679999485016, "end": 4280.549999485016}, {"id": "0dc0fef7-f74b-43b0-85b0-cbdafa785283", "text": "It's like, do not do, like, timers and, work blocks and stuff like that. It's like that's not how your brain works. It's you're just it's just gonna be a trap for you and it won't work. It was like what you need is like you need a a block of time in the morning, first thing in the morning when your mind is clearest, and you need to do certain tasks in that block, certain types of tasks. And then it's like, then you take a break, and then move around in the afternoon and then and then in the after you move in the afternoon, do, like, logistical like, stuff that your mind does not have to a 100% for. Like just like busy work stuff. Do that in early afternoon and then in the evening do like artistic developmental stuff.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4280.999999485016, "end": 4317.419999485016}, {"id": "581e5dbb-431c-4016-b5ce-b272dfc39a0b", "text": "And I was like, this actually makes sense because this is kind of what I do on accident. You know what I mean? Like, when I'm productive, I I get up and I work and then I go to the gym and then I like do whatever, I don't have the same like after the gym, I'm a little more focused, I don't have the focus I have in the first thing in the morning. And then in the a little bit. Yes. Yes.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4317.9799994850155, "end": 4339.539999485016}, {"id": "6829e94d-7274-483a-9ece-2bb20baafea4", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "Speaker 0", "start": 4682.763884983063, "end": 4683.0838849830625}, {"id": "02eecd85-4b39-4d2e-a6de-e04efd063a53", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "Speaker 0", "start": 4688.0438849830625, "end": 4688.363884983063}, {"id": "6c3758d2-2d80-4476-93ea-8a95f3e05ce7", "text": "Ja, Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4700.743884983062, "end": 4705.403884983063}, {"id": "bcb45e54-47b9-42b6-bab3-f26fbb1ae3f1", "text": "Well, you feel like I have to try because otherwise I'm stuck with it. Like, I wanna I wanna perform better than this. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4705.643884983063, "end": 4713.993884983062}, {"id": "3bb2415e-be35-4e77-8319-8a058aba186f", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4722.653884983063, "end": 4723.053884983063}, {"id": "71cb984d-3a71-42f3-9031-01ca752b1553", "text": "Ja. Oh. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4726.923887983063, "end": 4731.423884983063}, {"id": "04e02a23-8663-4c87-8ef1-d48233aa001e", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4737.343884983063, "end": 4737.743886983063}, {"id": "2abdded7-9fc3-473e-a325-82556369b10a", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4747.123884983062, "end": 4747.603884983063}, {"id": "82a4c4fb-44eb-4336-bd64-5aa367db7aaf", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4755.573888983063, "end": 4755.893888983062}, {"id": "5392a8e4-47f2-4083-ae4c-c5496b5fab90", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4759.573888983063, "end": 4759.973890983063}, {"id": "cb8d0518-d0c6-4d2c-b5f7-2fe5c2449c06", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4763.443894983063, "end": 4763.843884983063}, {"id": "eca9cb30-1e72-465c-bd3a-539dfef7c758", "text": "No. I already know the I already know the answer to that. It'll just feel different. You won't stop. In fact, I suspect your performance will go up.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4764.413884983062, "end": 4773.463884983063}, {"id": "9402e31e-b356-41ca-afb0-e046a448f543", "text": "Right? Because like the there's a drive there's a drive in the negative emotion but it's it's sporadic and it's and it's it's like frenetic. Right?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4773.763884983063, "end": 4783.033884983062}, {"id": "5343dfa7-c5a5-494d-8a09-eca8284e8779", "text": "Like the focus is kinda shifty. But when you're happy, you still want things It's it's like it's noisy. It's not clean. It's like it's like you know what I mean? It's it's like wobbly.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4783.073884983063, "end": 4796.0438849830625}, {"id": "2c52370e-3008-415f-af1e-8f163e15502d", "text": "Yes. Yes. The fuzz on the TV is perfect. Like, there's this like, ah, anxious, like, ah, feeling to it. Right? And there's a drive in that, but, like, like for me with with like my fitness, I was frenetic for a long time.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4797.273884983063, "end": 4813.093884983063}, {"id": "0ba13ba9-0f0b-4d71-bccd-7b411191b3a2", "text": "It was like, gotta get in shape so that people like, I will have this experience with socially that I wanna have. Right? It was all about if I look better and if I feel better about my body, like, I'm gonna get a different reaction people. I'm gonna get more attention. I'm gonna get more people will like me better.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4813.573884983063, "end": 4827.063894983063}, {"id": "2af7e367-8a6b-4839-8caa-970c9af74ffe", "text": "Right? If I'm fit. It is yeah. There is there is some truth to it. But also, like, it it created this energy of, like, I would I would go real hard and then I'd run out of gas, and I would go hard and then run out gas. You know what mean? It created this kind start and stop and and like I was and the experience of it the experience of making progress was sometimes rewarding, but a lot of times it was it was it felt it made me sad. Right? Because what I was doing was essentially like I have to change my myself in order to accept myself. Right? I don't accept myself. And so this process of trying to get in shape was a sad process. Right? And when I shifted it away and was like, I just wanna feel better. Like, I don't care.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4827.153884983063, "end": 4870.073884983063}, {"id": "149c665e-6073-453c-833f-282bea4d9fd9", "text": "I look. I don't care what people think. I don't I just I just wanna like how I feel. Right? Like, I got really consistent and really patient.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4870.283884983062, "end": 4879.843884983063}, {"id": "1dfe49fa-ac92-4bb3-9eab-bacbf99e2778", "text": "And it was slow progress but it never stopped. Right? And and then once I got to a level where I was like, oh, I I'm happy with where I'm at. Like, you can I always I I wish I had bigger arms? Whatever it is. Right? But, like, I feel good about how I look now.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4881.073884983063, "end": 4893.123874983063}, {"id": "06da559e-3589-49a0-8233-05f97b615945", "text": "Right? And that energy is like, oh, I don't when I go to the gym, it's rarely a bear. Like, it's rarely a thing where I'm like, oh, this is hard.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4893.253884983063, "end": 4901.3338849830625}, {"id": "8adeece0-7ba6-42f8-8403-658bd217b09d", "text": "I need to do it. It's important. Right? It's rarely that. It's it's just like, well, no. This is just what I do and I like it.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4901.463884983063, "end": 4905.463884983063}, {"id": "3f904de9-0933-49df-ae21-10d4f77de2f9", "text": "You know what I mean? And yeah. Yeah. And so I think, like, in terms of our progress, it will feel like that. Like, when we find happiness, we'll settle and it'll be like a slow and steady, but it will be more satisfying and like there's an ease I think around it.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4905.533884983062, "end": 4923.0738749830625}, {"id": "a7ef8528-3fad-485c-8c99-6a74cf969ed7", "text": "Instead of this like, oh, I I'm like frustrated and I want this thing and I like, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. And all that energy. Right? Where it's like we're driving but we're like we know where we're driving to. Instead, will just be like, oh, I I I know who I am. I know what I want, and I know I can get it.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4923.603884983063, "end": 4938.613884983063}, {"id": "eafe938d-1684-43d1-8c23-e456c7e3884f", "text": "And I'm just kind of I'm just kind of like low key like putting in the work each day, like just doing the reps. Right? I just go to the gym every day. I do my my routine. I push myself but I enjoy it. Like it's not it's not a bear.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4938.813864983063, "end": 4951.2339049830625}, {"id": "62b5a0be-803c-492b-b502-e9719aded884", "text": "Right?", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4951.2339049830625, "end": 4951.313884983063}, {"id": "ddfa526b-23c3-4690-ac6d-c7e5653f1927", "text": "Right? I think I think more of life as we gain mastery will feel like that. That's my anticipation anyway for me. I'm like, I think when I hit yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4951.393884983063, "end": 4962.613884983063}, {"id": "2eb71b45-00f3-48f8-89bc-b1f37e0f3207", "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 4962.613884983063, "end": 4963.173914983063}, {"id": "6cae2fe1-892d-4227-809d-9ac15c09a91f", "text": "When I hit those levels of, like, financial success where my okay. I have this feeling of I'm confident that I can I'm where I wanna be and I can keep improving.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4964.373884983062, "end": 4971.733884983063}, {"id": "1d812b6d-5fe6-493b-a477-1e3a629991ef", "text": "It'll have that feel of like, I'm in control of this. I'm proud of myself. This is part of who I am. It's not this thing of like, oh, I'm afraid I can't do this and I need to do it and I like wanna respect myself but it's hard. It'll shift into this other gear where it's like, no, I I've got I think with relationships too, same thing. Where it's like, no. I'm I'm good at this. I can I can do this? And I like it.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 4972.703884983062, "end": 4993.063864983063}, {"id": "4014972c-8d27-429b-b612-a85c283c7f21", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5000.853884983063, "end": 5001.253884983063}, {"id": "20c40295-46c9-407a-a94a-92c70788b1d0", "text": "Mhmm.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5003.123884983062, "end": 5003.523884983063}, {"id": "254cc3dd-ca05-4fdc-91ae-6c38a4e3d50a", "text": "Aha.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5021.133904983063, "end": 5021.533884983062}, {"id": "fb17f69a-ccbc-4846-aacd-e9d17117f558", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5034.183884983063, "end": 5034.5838849830625}, {"id": "4c895933-c25b-4f15-a1c2-eb51c89c5c75", "text": "Uh-huh.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5041.463854983062, "end": 5041.863884983063}, {"id": "350c2ee6-7e40-4436-b7f9-f1bcd438a462", "text": "Ja. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5065.303884983063, "end": 5067.213884983063}, {"id": "2f158cc1-4221-4ed6-871d-9ea94977628f", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5077.143884983063, "end": 5077.543904983063}, {"id": "b263420e-579c-45f6-8068-d359f333f1b7", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5089.713884983063, "end": 5090.113884983063}, {"id": "7f255ad6-125f-42da-b5f6-e3c28a804398", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5095.413884983062, "end": 5096.213884983063}, {"id": "88663aaa-130c-4a49-a662-5dc50c631208", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5096.613884983063, "end": 5098.053884983063}, {"id": "1b8823a0-5b61-4a10-886a-8ef04a091802", "text": "I I think I think I will become more creative but, like, in a productive sense. Does that make sense? Like, I wanna build more stuff.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5099.573884983063, "end": 5109.663904983063}, {"id": "841ac038-9fee-47c4-b738-82e3dbfc10db", "text": "Like, the thing I'm doing this week where I'm all excited about it and I'm like, I think yeah. Yeah. I think that energy will level up where I'll just be like, oh, I just love making stuff. Like, I just I have ideas and I just wanna work on execute on them. You know what I mean? I think I think me and my, like, most comfortable, most honest, most grounded state is somebody that just has this kind of constant like, enthusiasm around, like, manifesting my ideas in the world.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5110.123884983062, "end": 5137.643914983063}, {"id": "1285d814-39a0-439a-a576-ab0eec540146", "text": "Oh, yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5141.473884983063, "end": 5142.033884983062}, {"id": "d9e730a1-20b9-41f1-9972-4379b1e886b8", "text": "Constantly.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5142.5438849830625, "end": 5143.103884983063}, {"id": "d0a441a9-3be5-4532-98ac-8805bcc0d53e", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5166.123884983062, "end": 5166.443884983063}, {"id": "c16b050a-0ae3-4012-b481-6c8f57ad36ef", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5190.143884983063, "end": 5190.5438849830625}, {"id": "83e34a94-d34e-4bde-9e03-8c6b9dad5980", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5197.923884983063, "end": 5198.323884983063}, {"id": "79a2729a-a703-46f3-aab1-31ffd73d39ec", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5201.8338849830625, "end": 5202.233884983063}, {"id": "27f98c6a-0c51-4436-9d4d-5be485d79423", "text": "Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5206.563834983062, "end": 5208.333854983062}, {"id": "52c7742a-2aac-4c91-a4f3-3342f29e6a17", "text": "Yeah. No. That's", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5211.163884983062, "end": 5212.923884983063}, {"id": "9f6db4dd-564a-4200-b7ae-88a23542599d", "text": "right. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5213.323884983063, "end": 5216.073884983063}, {"id": "35d765fe-1c6b-46a0-92a6-85c6b4a311aa", "text": "No. That's kind of that's that and going to the gym is kind of my dream come through relationship wise. Like, if I can go work out with somebody and then I could, like, build stuff, that would be so fulfilling for me. Like, I remember being a younger man", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5217.893884983063, "end": 5230.913884983062}, {"id": "d5619bdc-953d-459c-8d5a-5819349deb93", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5232.0438849830625, "end": 5232.763884983063}, {"id": "cefe0d3c-d044-4d98-80cb-b747b134e355", "text": "Yes. Yes.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5232.923884983063, "end": 5233.803884983063}, {"id": "3a404517-67c0-4017-84f0-adc02abe90f3", "text": "Exactly. Exactly.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5235.263844983063, "end": 5237.833854983062}, {"id": "c28109d4-43f7-4e61-875f-a9f302e6887d", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5241.123884983062, "end": 5241.523914983063}, {"id": "52d532a1-ee70-41c7-8f70-3ed07526f679", "text": "Aj\u00e1.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5254.5438849830625, "end": 5255.023884983063}, {"id": "9369d962-8f29-4aa9-91fc-164308cf6eaa", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5264.603884983063, "end": 5265.083854983062}, {"id": "33fcfd56-1409-43bc-b2fc-70910462167c", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5279.273914983063, "end": 5279.673884983063}, {"id": "bb3d1d17-0090-4d00-9f5c-208ebb7ec57b", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5308.643854983063, "end": 5308.963884983063}, {"id": "7892542c-cabf-4110-bd2e-ba956f986283", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5318.763884983063, "end": 5319.163884983062}, {"id": "141f01ae-7685-41d9-b383-0ca85de1f35b", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5328.0438849830625, "end": 5328.363884983062}, {"id": "bfa241a5-cce9-4443-906c-cbee64294f4e", "text": "Yeah. Who are you?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5332.753884983063, "end": 5333.633884983063}, {"id": "c5c8296d-df02-4d30-b41a-cf70970358e8", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5334.013844983063, "end": 5335.4538449830625}, {"id": "bc2c2b7e-307f-4937-9262-47bb0e9db5ab", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5347.113884983062, "end": 5347.513884983063}, {"id": "86372629-eea7-434b-919a-a3ce9c72b4f5", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5352.983884983063, "end": 5353.383884983063}, {"id": "31c5aa44-555a-4588-9bf6-284e6f9640be", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5365.633884983063, "end": 5366.033884983062}, {"id": "cafd43a6-4350-4ac0-84b1-f04cd1571f86", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5398.093924983063, "end": 5398.493884983063}, {"id": "b30430f2-b872-4fda-95e2-292ff3fe3cce", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5401.893884983063, "end": 5402.293934983063}, {"id": "9ba42f4b-70d4-4477-9624-454e8d9e7500", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5420.413884983062, "end": 5420.653884983063}, {"id": "545feaa0-d9d3-4eea-a644-313557cc648c", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5427.683824983063, "end": 5429.923884983063}, {"id": "068ae04e-2caf-4d4f-b9dd-b7ed5dfd5e9a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5454.933884983063, "end": 5455.3338849830625}, {"id": "951038f5-09a7-48d1-bd39-cc09712d405a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5458.993884983063, "end": 5459.393854983063}, {"id": "47d7f982-cfd8-49f7-a54e-5f26f4cecb0e", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5471.223924983063, "end": 5471.623884983062}, {"id": "3b0098dd-ed86-492d-9a35-c0813a9718d5", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5486.013884983063, "end": 5486.333854983062}, {"id": "ef2269bd-fada-4799-a97a-4ee56ad3534b", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5486.993884983063, "end": 5487.313884983063}, {"id": "2923fb93-dab3-4700-b091-48e8c3ccd5ff", "text": "Bright.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5496.483884983063, "end": 5497.0438849830625}, {"id": "942fc84e-c463-46af-bdd8-fb232e59ee42", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5508.153884983063, "end": 5508.553884983063}, {"id": "124a9c65-b5cb-4be0-9d10-a34726c479a2", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5521.463914983063, "end": 5521.863884983062}, {"id": "4f634248-4919-4319-b46a-bc3a8fd1684a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5523.013844983063, "end": 5523.413884983062}, {"id": "7bfe7ec1-dfab-49d3-891f-8c3ec5281bf5", "text": "No. But that's a good that's a good insight to Like, that is a really good insight. Yeah. That actually okay. Hold on. I need to write a couple things down.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5523.413884983062, "end": 5533.343924983063}, {"id": "12f49d63-e60a-45b7-927c-32559dc41c67", "text": "You said a couple things where I'm like, I need to think about this. Like, the the just the thing about, like, wanting what do you want? Because I've been thinking about that, and I'm like, I keep getting into these relationships where I have conflict because like with I the experience of being around her is really I experienced a lot of pleasure. Does that make sense? Like, I am excited to see her and she's delightful and I find her a attractive and I find her energy just like really compelling. Like I'm really happy when I'm in her company. Does that make sense?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5533.463914983063, "end": 5566.513844983063}, {"id": "439777ca-5e91-4305-9c7a-5b9d599fb25f", "text": "But but, like, in terms of what she's offering me, she doesn't offer me a lot of the things I do want. Like, she is kind of self Like, most of the energy and most of the conversation and most what's going on is about her and not about me. There's a little bit about me. It's like it's like 20% me and 80% her in terms of what we're talking about and where our attention is and what we're working on. Right?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5568.483934983063, "end": 5591.353884983063}, {"id": "e818e0e9-e387-483c-b454-a5a66dc71f0c", "text": "And I'm like, that's not enough. Like, I want I want that person to make more space for me. Right? I wanna be more of an equal", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5592.0438849830625, "end": 5598.253884983063}, {"id": "391352ff-bd50-48c9-87b4-85368f40fcb5", "text": "It doesn't need to be yes. Yes.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5601.5438849830625, "end": 5608.723884983063}, {"id": "6b84d3ab-1892-4b2e-b559-dedfcf036cb6", "text": "Yeah. And I like, I I get some satisfaction out of being there for my person. So it's like, if if it's not completely balanced, like, I can be I can feel value in that, in in, like, letting them take up more space. But, like, but at a certain point, it feels like it's all about them and not enough you know, like, I'm being erased.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5614.593924983063, "end": 5634.463884983063}, {"id": "1dc151b1-cfde-4db5-a0e6-875faf600027", "text": "And I have participated in it too. Like, I almost encourage it. Cause it's like I could definitely assert myself more. And she asked me to in many cases, then I was also like, you keep telling me you want me to take up more space, but when I do you don't really engage with it. You know what I mean? So it's like you want me to be more assertive and be more myself and show you more. But like you are so self focused. Like, you're so focused on your own goals and your own objectives and your own thoughts and your own feelings When I kind of share stuff, you don't it falls flat. There's no you know what I mean? So I like yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5634.983884983063, "end": 5664.343924983063}, {"id": "b96dc28d-1fcd-408a-808e-caac062d28c5", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5667.383884983063, "end": 5668.823884983063}, {"id": "4eaaf002-1cbc-4f2b-bd0e-46c0168b57a5", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5670.463884983063, "end": 5670.9438349830625}, {"id": "5cdd54fb-c354-4e89-82d4-c3ab8ac39ae3", "text": "Yeah. Right. I think I think she to her credit, I think she instinctually had a feel for that and and and didn't like it either. Like, I think she wanted to be more like, even, but, like, it just wasn't wired up. Like, it didn't come naturally, but she didn't like it. You know what I mean? She wanted me to push her in that way because I think she wanted to be more even and more fair. But like it just didn't come natural. And so like her energy of just like, here's what I'm doing, I'm go go go and I'm like doing this and doing that that. My kind of energy, like, along with that, like, just naturally shifted us all like, way over into her corner. And I don't think she liked it, but it was also, like, neither one of us quite knew how to adjust it. Right? But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5681.903924983063, "end": 5729.783884983062}, {"id": "3babc5a2-f5b4-41f3-8359-63402ffd93ad", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5733.303884983063, "end": 5734.183884983063}, {"id": "1735a8c5-a447-4725-b1db-c5033a464101", "text": "Yeah. And she kept wanting to me to do it. She almost acted like, well, you're the like, you're supposed to be more dominant. You're it's supposed to be your job to do this. And I was like, yes, but also, come on. Like, it's still your response You know what I mean? Like, I felt like yeah, I felt like it was a little bit of an abdication of her responsibility for her. Like, I accepted that I should show up more confidently and more assertively. Like, I accept that. But I'm also, like, it doesn't abdicate your responsibility to respond and make space for it. You know what I mean? Like, you're it's still some it's still on you to do your part of that.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5735.173884983063, "end": 5770.0438849830625}, {"id": "9d6331ee-ec27-44ff-88f8-89a63c6baf22", "text": "So that that piece of like, I I want things to be more even. Right? And then, like, just talking about, like, going to the gym and, like, I want somebody that wants to, like, talk about building my ideas. Like, you know what I mean? Like, help me. Because, like, we lately, she's been doing real estate, and she's been super busy and I was, like, helping her. Like, I was talking to her a lot about that stuff, and then I would kinda show her my thing, and she gets excited about it sometimes, but I'm, she wouldn't really like, she just didn't have the space to engage. And I'm like, I want somebody who engages, who's like, can get excited about my stuff. And", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5772.2938849830625, "end": 5806.923884983063}, {"id": "4dd356af-6d4c-4ef5-8b2a-c62059c1eb23", "text": "ja, Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5815.403884983063, "end": 5817.563884983063}, {"id": "be5308f1-a84c-4926-a754-480248ca51a0", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5819.203884983062, "end": 5820.163884983062}, {"id": "08bc6740-bdf7-4abd-958c-cca55225a374", "text": "Yeah. And I and I and I think I think, like, having a kind of a clear picture of what I want my partnership to look like does two things for me. It helps me deal with a relation because I think I do get overly invested. Like, part of my conflict is that I feel undervalued in my relationship with", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5827.833784983062, "end": 5847.593884983063}, {"id": "e06c6519-d0ca-446a-8d4f-459763dcb3fb", "text": "Katie.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5847.593884983063, "end": 5847.913984983063}, {"id": "1bba9aef-9c47-4079-a45f-be935b4d1f52", "text": "And yet, I feel like that that undervaluing makes me wanna try harder instead of disengage. You know?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5848.883884983063, "end": 5856.233784983063}, {"id": "886240b7-0635-4257-8b20-63f9b4ecc4a6", "text": "Yes. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5858.643884983063, "end": 5862.773984983063}, {"id": "72c5262c-640f-4394-b178-317b4b4b8c6e", "text": "Me too. Me too. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5872.703884983062, "end": 5875.7938849830625}, {"id": "c4285391-c4b6-48e5-b526-fbcb55a4dc3b", "text": "I got my parents attention by showing up I mean, my dad mostly.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 5876.273884983063, "end": 5879.553884983063}, {"id": "08083853-7069-4aa8-b465-f4c9f91915a8", "text": "Though yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5880.2938849830625, "end": 5884.133984983063}, {"id": "0a74f291-2765-4325-8aba-0c5b449aa643", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 5890.333784983062, "end": 5890.733784983063}, {"id": "d898cf9f-bb7f-4713-83b9-b500092cc0f0", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5897.903884983063, "end": 5898.383884983063}, {"id": "04ffd9ec-7217-4ba5-9ccd-3f32d0023bf8", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5905.243884983063, "end": 5905.643884983063}, {"id": "54481427-54fc-4ac1-9fbe-6272fad99ec8", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5948.023884983063, "end": 5948.423884983063}, {"id": "ace4320c-0282-4e16-a4ca-43eedc0a472d", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5978.0838849830625, "end": 5978.483784983063}, {"id": "bfcd62ff-1120-4d5f-bc0a-b400d4854d24", "text": "Mhmm. Mhmm.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5984.803884983063, "end": 5986.203884983062}, {"id": "7520e6ca-73c0-43e3-bf8b-5f8461cd2269", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5991.5438849830625, "end": 5991.863884983062}, {"id": "32697cbd-caf7-47bc-9aa6-f03ae451bd01", "text": "Uh-huh. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 5999.213884983063, "end": 6002.033884983062}, {"id": "60b6f845-a32c-4fbb-bf56-6c9b3bbf9f1d", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6038.303884983063, "end": 6038.703884983062}, {"id": "f481598c-834e-4ed7-8137-d9c267b8a124", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6083.103784983063, "end": 6086.3037849830625}, {"id": "c225ef1a-2ae4-44b9-a56d-5eeed77b1c30", "text": "Yeah. Me too.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6086.303884983063, "end": 6087.503884983063}, {"id": "be5399bf-900c-43e6-859f-2f2d9c4b7a33", "text": "And I think I think I think having a clear picture of that for me will help me both not feel like if something if I don't get that from my partner, will make me hold them accountable instead of, like, I need to earn it from them. Right?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6088.003884983063, "end": 6105.633884983063}, {"id": "23254955-d472-44a3-8860-574a0b308b0c", "text": "And and then also so in case of Kay, whatever, where am I missing her and, like, I can, like, bounce out a little bit and be like I can miss her and I can feel like I still love her, but that's not the same as, like, wishing she was here.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6106.483884983063, "end": 6119.013884983063}, {"id": "960204c5-31a1-4e30-9c01-9ba58ef26d30", "text": "That's different. Right? And then and then yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6119.593884983063, "end": 6121.8338849830625}, {"id": "d05a3691-5fb9-45ad-a530-a186e39a01bb", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6123.603784983063, "end": 6123.763884983063}, {"id": "c9db331e-9233-425f-87d5-0e5a2b6734c7", "text": "Mhmm.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6134.103884983063, "end": 6134.503984983063}, {"id": "41de5941-dbf0-4599-907f-e8c3bfc029c3", "text": "Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6140.353784983063, "end": 6141.713784983063}, {"id": "c4e10ab0-2098-419f-b302-3c3a6aeeaa66", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6149.463784983063, "end": 6149.943784983063}, {"id": "6b3ec003-fa43-41c0-90f0-0bcbd727d951", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6160.203884983062, "end": 6160.603884983063}, {"id": "0629048e-7416-4ae4-938d-350bfc0d3546", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6178.633984983063, "end": 6179.033884983062}, {"id": "ae9e4545-9215-4cdd-bad6-39387ae0ec43", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6190.323884983063, "end": 6190.723884983063}, {"id": "a1b6a5e8-46fc-4b5c-b7ce-9494bcb5a5a7", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6194.883884983063, "end": 6195.283884983062}, {"id": "a96f7cd1-1c13-40f4-8de2-b3dfce51e670", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6208.073884983063, "end": 6208.473884983063}, {"id": "a5d71ab5-31a5-4206-a21b-8f83c7928279", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6212.7938849830625, "end": 6213.993884983063}, {"id": "a2890a48-86a0-4a68-ae11-ec0527f8f758", "text": "Okay.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6220.953784983063, "end": 6221.353784983063}, {"id": "dfd001c1-6b30-4af9-b0ff-ed9c12a20c0b", "text": "Ja, Okay.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6228.023984983063, "end": 6231.563884983063}, {"id": "bd02af89-326e-4400-bf6b-c67a14f4eb5c", "text": "BYU maybe? Like, there's some connect there's some connection to Utah and with him. I know that. Okay.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6235.893984983062, "end": 6242.723784983063}, {"id": "59a1b37e-0bd1-4211-a172-63be6d9c9b50", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6251.353884983063, "end": 6251.753984983063}, {"id": "939a6283-c0b3-4862-aca2-b290a75b1886", "text": "Ja, Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6263.263884983063, "end": 6264.383884983063}, {"id": "364699d0-a297-4c1a-9810-d1d415e36fcf", "text": "He probably gets so much play out of that. Like, if he's a good looking kid, looks like a like a celebrity, he is like he is totally he is totally leveraging that.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6272.143884983063, "end": 6283.903884983063}, {"id": "a770b90a-1e55-4350-93a4-06f643382bd5", "text": "Like, he that's working for him every day.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6284.033884983062, "end": 6286.433884983063}, {"id": "dc7cb8f8-d8e9-436b-8cb6-890ca8ab4717", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6299.413884983062, "end": 6299.893884983063}, {"id": "e19408c6-4efc-40fb-a9fe-a5ea8e43750c", "text": "Oh, you're fine. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6305.403884983063, "end": 6306.443884983063}, {"id": "dfa511b2-7af9-4f8a-8b80-aa181032ba90", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6315.443884983063, "end": 6315.843884983063}, {"id": "fcc892ae-ff50-4b13-90bd-16514a2cb632", "text": "Okay. 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Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6392.673884983063, "end": 6393.553884983063}, {"id": "1b3f83cf-3d1e-4463-b6b4-32be18e7e9cc", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6394.963784983063, "end": 6395.363784983063}, {"id": "3985ae77-9ac1-4133-89db-1be19186659a", "text": "That's pretty funny.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6397.2938849830625, "end": 6398.253884983063}, {"id": "f0531d36-de80-4737-8805-de0953a07773", "text": "Okay.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6433.453884983062, "end": 6433.853884983063}, {"id": "7951db6a-a56b-4745-9f90-1192e88c5e49", "text": "Okay.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6437.013884983063, "end": 6437.413884983062}, {"id": "50272d2a-beee-47c2-927a-48853cd186ba", "text": "Okay.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6448.263884983063, "end": 6448.743884983063}, {"id": "5594d893-9376-45cd-a0d1-18c13b2c097c", "text": "Yeah. I mean, it's what's not at what is not attractive about him? Because he's got a nice face. Is it just because he's too little?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6468.523884983063, "end": 6475.603884983063}, {"id": "85453e56-3504-47e5-a835-28818f48263f", "text": "And, like, stocky? Like, he's a handsome guy. Right?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6476.643884983063, "end": 6480.603884983063}, {"id": "9871a481-4af1-4e51-8a15-a3a0f7d081c4", "text": "Like Jared's a weird Jared is not a handsome man. Jared is a weird looking dude. Yeah. Like, Jared's face, he's got right. He's got, like, a he's got, like, a giant baby face look.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6483.903984983062, "end": 6496.803884983063}, {"id": "d532c4b6-002b-442a-9350-331546e55054", "text": "But, like but, like, almost, like, I mean, I even wanna keep going because it's gonna get really mean. But, like, he he looks he looks a little like something. 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Okay.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6529.253984983063, "end": 6530.2938849830625}, {"id": "2f9cb769-dbe3-4014-aad9-9962876566e6", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6542.823784983063, "end": 6543.223784983063}, {"id": "7b31c3c0-e1e8-40b4-8702-8fd28163b69e", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6546.273884983063, "end": 6546.753884983063}, {"id": "f864fa78-9f89-41a0-900d-c93c0a989266", "text": "Uh-huh. Because you're attracted to your cousin. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6558.603784983063, "end": 6561.5838849830625}, {"id": "587d2ab6-e414-47ab-b5dc-5a7dc9c8bdfc", "text": "K. Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6574.5838849830625, "end": 6575.863884983062}, {"id": "4df6cf21-f3ca-4fff-8abb-1393d6a893c8", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6599.603884983063, "end": 6600.0838849830625}, {"id": "06e8ad64-3001-4583-8351-4d7c5d47de03", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6602.783884983062, "end": 6603.103884983063}, {"id": "712bfe93-1c53-4ee2-b6f3-3b8c5dc7f51a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6608.453884983062, "end": 6608.773884983063}, {"id": "ab0c08ed-05b3-4480-b57f-65d969c3e053", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6615.733784983063, "end": 6616.133884983063}, {"id": "6b54524c-385d-4823-ad8d-26f3538e1db0", "text": "Okay.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6633.393884983063, "end": 6633.873984983063}, {"id": "5450e17e-39c0-4492-b90c-6ca4ef0efeec", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6649.693784983063, "end": 6650.0937849830625}, {"id": "fd98ab4c-3dd1-4108-9b0f-5c698a0acd9f", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6655.143984983062, "end": 6655.5438849830625}, {"id": "3d1161b1-fdad-4194-84ca-3695e2255218", "text": "Yeah. 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Right.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6705.5438849830625, "end": 6706.503984983063}, {"id": "f15da4a9-3929-42f3-9eca-cbc4843e1103", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6711.323884983063, "end": 6711.803884983063}, {"id": "b5219d78-e726-465d-8c6a-80af21caa4d9", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6723.063884983063, "end": 6723.463784983063}, {"id": "e23a9f9b-0391-4fea-b7e1-91049a4cc626", "text": "Right. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6745.393884983063, "end": 6746.033884983062}, {"id": "1bcdeb0d-d7f0-4b8d-9a7b-0edfcf9f04f8", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6750.0438849830625, "end": 6750.523884983062}, {"id": "16f82e3d-8851-42b7-9684-b2aa021cb021", "text": "Aha, Yeah. Yeah. 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Like, they're fun, but also, like, if I don't do them, don't feel bad about it. You know what I mean?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6833.423784983062, "end": 6847.773884983062}, {"id": "b9149cd9-6e57-43b3-83a3-19cc493ce598", "text": "But like, I feel like just the just the energy that you can share with a partner is you know what I mean? You can make, like, every day, like, pretty fun and and engaging if you show up with the right kind of like enthusiasm and like creative energy and you're playing with each other and you're like, you know what I mean? I'm like, can make things really really exciting and fun if you just show up for that with that energy. And like, yeah, you I novelty is great and like, traveling and rock climbing and whatever, adventure and stuff like that.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6849.213884983063, "end": 6880.103884983063}, {"id": "568f3651-5394-4341-8ed9-b2f7821dd452", "text": "Is fun. But for me, I'm like, it's for me the more kind of the juicier part is just the like you know, I make my person laugh. I like I I like play games with them, and I like make fun of them, You know, not in a condescending way, but like we're looking for the joke. We're looking for the like, the novelty. We're looking for the yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6880.303884983063, "end": 6902.673784983062}, {"id": "3e3af4ee-a784-40f3-b681-48cc223f918c", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6903.7938849830625, "end": 6906.193884983062}, {"id": "6db867b1-8a5a-4889-ac70-f7946d5b6501", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6914.223884983063, "end": 6914.623884983062}, {"id": "c269e7ea-80ae-4947-9806-25c6ab1ed5ff", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6936.493884983063, "end": 6938.583884983063}, {"id": "6781f5ad-4083-4365-80a1-d9122ac8d929", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6941.8936849830625, "end": 6943.413784983062}, {"id": "47d1e1e9-cc91-4e6f-b05a-a76d30e23ec1", "text": "Yeah. Me too.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6960.513884983063, "end": 6961.633884983063}, {"id": "eaf320c6-a30b-4ce8-afb6-c27a763f0e38", "text": "I I I appreciate it, and I am feeling a lot less depressed after after talking to you. So that's how thank you.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6961.7938849830625, "end": 6969.693984983063}, {"id": "cf441a9f-9b83-46ba-93ca-435b8e7af1b2", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6970.014084983062, "end": 6970.574184983063}, {"id": "de2266e6-09f5-4729-926b-26931b935730", "text": "Oh, yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 6971.373884983062, "end": 6972.254084983063}, {"id": "dbec0603-2d32-4a48-8090-b8bb533667f2", "text": "It'll come and go.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 6972.333884983063, "end": 6973.453984983063}, {"id": "bdb593a5-1f0e-4cdf-bbb3-3ad8e4d6f368", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6973.623884983062, "end": 6973.943984983063}, {"id": "8c935433-eafe-42c0-8206-c75e5ebf7217", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6978.273884983062, "end": 6978.673784983062}, {"id": "4b510750-7cf0-43c8-8422-3d1d77077afc", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6985.053884983063, "end": 6985.453884983062}, {"id": "104de253-f9cd-4194-a61f-0a831940c2de", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 6992.553884983063, "end": 6993.753884983063}, {"id": "3ad2af2d-ac37-49e9-8f96-b12154d3d5eb", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7011.413884983063, "end": 7011.813884983063}, {"id": "776ceb28-02e3-410f-8adf-545033f4c7bb", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7023.303884983063, "end": 7024.744084983063}, {"id": "02bc302e-f931-41e0-bea9-1aaef74ddfa2", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7039.593884983063, "end": 7039.993884983063}, {"id": "3e63b1cb-11bc-4183-9e93-67a7e10976fa", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7047.623684983063, "end": 7048.023884983062}, {"id": "6d3f1beb-60e7-4dd2-859e-8856500bded0", "text": "Uh-huh. That's good. That's good. You know, Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7058.9840849830625, "end": 7064.503884983063}, {"id": "ae4fa8b4-5403-47ef-ace6-af88a2ef15a9", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7075.493884983063, "end": 7075.893884983063}, {"id": "8c31649e-3798-4d6e-aa64-be393fb040ef", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7082.273884983062, "end": 7082.673784983062}, {"id": "965ba1ce-1a66-4110-8091-2671e195092a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7092.553884983063, "end": 7092.953884983062}, {"id": "8e46447b-f6bc-4294-bb32-d11089f71fe6", "text": "Ja. Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7097.263884983063, "end": 7099.343684983063}, {"id": "930c3427-5bff-4189-9da5-58324de51a50", "text": "Yeah. I know I know what you mean. Like, you're like, does this actually work? It appears to be working. But you're like, does it though? Like but but I don't know. They're so different.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7100.153884983063, "end": 7112.243884983063}, {"id": "37d10607-fa42-454b-aac6-c230331d8e85", "text": "You normally are like that that doesn't make any sense. But then I mean, that is what we like. It's someone different than us in many cases.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7112.973884983063, "end": 7119.193984983063}, {"id": "d6b28f4e-5d24-4203-85b3-dd4225711314", "text": "So maybe that's part of why it works.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7119.563884983063, "end": 7121.163784983062}, {"id": "041d9048-6a62-4ce1-848c-6980d50aab38", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7127.1036849830625, "end": 7127.503884983063}, {"id": "ed7872e1-ac09-4633-9944-147b069ae479", "text": "Right.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7130.383684983062, "end": 7130.783884983062}, {"id": "afa72a5b-7185-40fc-8110-231ef206e8bd", "text": "He's he's not spending his money, but he's rich now. His crypto his crypto holdings are worth quite a bit.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7132.413884983063, "end": 7139.973884983063}, {"id": "15cfd4fc-c720-418d-b039-3cf90868b52a", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7139.973884983063, "end": 7140.053884983063}, {"id": "4521cf0b-e194-465e-828d-711f45f27d69", "text": "Yeah. He could he's he's holding it so that so that he gets into the mega rich like, bracket, but he's he's rich now. So he's as as long as I've known him, he's been worth quite a bit of money.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7140.283884983062, "end": 7155.113884983062}, {"id": "3bd98625-1e19-4a30-bf8d-c25ff60f9b50", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7156.853884983063, "end": 7157.173784983062}, {"id": "78bad852-a675-42ed-a57c-016213ab2aa6", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7158.193884983062, "end": 7158.513884983063}, {"id": "4edc4ead-fa4c-488a-8706-cccc3c50c856", "text": "Yeah. He's he's always trying to hold on to it for the next big he wants to have $40,000,000. Does that make sense? Like, he he wants to be so freaking rich.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7159.283884983062, "end": 7170.123684983063}, {"id": "1a75bd69-5cd7-4ed0-86d5-d82af3af15b7", "text": "That, like, he's just stratospheric. Exactly. Exactly. So But he was he was worth he was worth he was worth more than that when I met him, and it goes down. Like, made he was worth more than 1 when I met him.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7170.263884983063, "end": 7187.4840849830625}, {"id": "a71350bf-b3a2-4215-aee4-03c613e13569", "text": "So I don't wanna get too much of his stuff away because that's, like, that's betraying some evidence. But, like, he had a he had a day a while back where I think he made it was one of those days that Bitcoin jumped quite a bit. And it wasn't because Bitcoin, it was some other holding he had.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7188.083884983063, "end": 7201.743884983063}, {"id": "6f75cf89-3d81-4328-8003-56dde4bb9eb5", "text": "But he made I can't remember what it was. It was it was hundreds thousands of dollars in a day. You you know what I mean? 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No. I think I'm a much better dad than I would have been. Had that not happened that way.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7319.453884983062, "end": 7325.623884983062}, {"id": "7e334e11-b861-406e-aa00-1beead990db7", "text": "Sure.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7362.423784983062, "end": 7362.823684983063}, {"id": "4b55c8fe-35bb-447e-affa-53e4b34e1934", "text": "With Katie.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7374.003884983063, "end": 7374.723884983063}, {"id": "ee8efc0a-895d-4367-a475-d36ce29997c6", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7376.633884983063, "end": 7376.873884983062}, {"id": "6ef23175-4963-4f0b-b00c-1a46d9871fdf", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 3, "speaker_name": "Speaker 3", "start": 7378.743884983063, "end": 7379.303884983063}, {"id": "fa8deeae-5a13-444e-99d5-e7f20b228bd7", "text": "I mean, it was more drug out. It was spread stretched out. You know what I mean? 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Yes.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7546.023884983062, "end": 7548.953884983062}, {"id": "6e6b8fbd-1641-4ae7-9ec8-22e645f3ceef", "text": "Yes.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7557.703884983062, "end": 7558.103884983063}, {"id": "e9c7c307-8e81-4948-b5f2-43759f01a94b", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7565.5438849830625, "end": 7565.943884983062}, {"id": "7d23d501-9535-423e-b68d-58cd4c4032d4", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7601.254084983063, "end": 7602.294084983063}, {"id": "b5bae355-c3f9-4a9f-ad01-b00a35c739c7", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7614.403884983063, "end": 7617.7340849830625}, {"id": "053125ef-8005-4c69-a4dc-adfc8916d731", "text": "Yeah. That was yeah. That was that was one of the most. 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Like, I had lived so I had white knuckled and been so bound and so tight for so long. And then like, with Liana, she, like, gave me permission to be free.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7641.193984983063, "end": 7684.783884983062}, {"id": "ecf75284-f275-4714-ab34-70f04e79c8b0", "text": "Moments. And it felt so healthy, like, so good for me and so so like such a relief that when then when it was like oh, this person's not okay. I was like, maybe that. All those good things I can't believe in. I shouldn't believe in them or trust them. And that was so upsetting. That was so upsetting.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7685.513884983063, "end": 7704.523884983062}, {"id": "b17f7b65-84e7-4332-bf07-5fe4368af1c9", "text": "But, you know, you figure that out over time. 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Like, what do I do with that?", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7717.8536849830625, "end": 7726.483884983063}, {"id": "084c2ca3-ed21-4a02-a784-4d40b87d4e30", "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7728.443984983063, "end": 7730.833884983063}, {"id": "a104044b-691b-49d6-8a00-6a1bbef32229", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7731.233884983063, "end": 7731.553884983063}, {"id": "05ea8228-8cf9-4794-8d29-cf3447712478", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7734.004084983063, "end": 7734.403884983063}, {"id": "6dd4fac7-a012-44ef-910b-ca424949104a", "text": "Yeah. Yes. Yes.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7740.643884983063, "end": 7742.163884983063}, {"id": "86124a13-7443-4000-930c-ecba5593312b", "text": "Ja.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7747.413784983062, "end": 7747.813684983063}, {"id": "36a01e8e-66b5-4211-84b1-195286199f98", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7759.833884983063, "end": 7762.993884983063}, {"id": "64c163fa-0170-4145-a2eb-4862e656c2c9", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7768.343884983063, "end": 7768.583884983063}, {"id": "05a81e55-97fb-466a-9fcd-b57b01d4fb12", "text": "Yeah.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7797.5240849830625, "end": 7797.923884983063}, {"id": "36a05161-0531-472c-9719-326d6f2e9fb7", "text": "Ja. Ja.", "speaker_id": 0, "speaker_name": "User", "start": 7801.193884983062, "end": 7803.993884983063}, {"id": "f53517c4-6757-400f-85b4-bdd84d2eabed", "text": "Okay. Okay.", "speaker_id": 2, "speaker_name": "Speaker 2", "start": 7806.763884983063, "end": 7807.6436849830625}, {"id": "07509893-55d1-4d25-afa0-0c7d3b914f96", "text": "Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Thank you for calling. Good to talk to you. Okay. Okay. Alright. Bye.", "speaker_id": 1, "speaker_name": "Speaker 1", "start": 7810.003884983063, "end": 7816.683984983063}], "geolocation": null} |